Quote# 54071

[in response to a question of "why is evolution evil"]

Because the prophet of evoloutionism, Darwin was a rascist and a sexist and he was also gay but he loved to bash gay people for some odd reason.

Anyway he incorporated these beleifs into his own version of Mein Keimf (U kno the book by hitler). He called it the Origins of Species.

Its alot like Hitlers book actually, come to think of it im pretty sure he plagerized it off Hitler.

[even though darwin was long dead before hitler was ever born]

Like Half Man Half Amazing, yahoo 70 Comments [12/12/2008 9:56:51 PM]
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Submitted By: adam

Quote# 48345

People need to wake up. Any gay education in the schools, is the the base from which gays hope to recruit more people into their lifestyles.

kenneth, Getting Sicker and Sicker 50 Comments [10/2/2008 2:52:28 PM]
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Quote# 35108

If we have a gravitational field, than why doesnt man get pulled, or atleast influenced to bigger masses than ourselves? STRIKE ONE

If electricity were real, and we really had an electric potential of 200 volts from head to toe, why arn't we being zapped by lightning every living second? STRIKE TWO

Why do bacteria and viruses change and evolve by the scientists terms? It's because of God trying to punish the sinful, the scientists are the median between God giving his vengeance to the sinful, so when the scientists cure a so called disease God changes the structure so it can continue killing the sinned. STRIKE THREE

You can't even prove that God doesnt exist, look at Africa, they don't worship the Savior so they have famine thrust upon them

Vaus, World of Warcraft Off-Topic Discussion 90 Comments [2/18/2008 6:24:25 PM]
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Quote# 134768

Amos Moses:
God has appointed Himself the judge of who in HIS creation is and is not ...... and HE has told the WORLD what that is ..... and it is WRITTEN DOWN ...... and it is SCRIPTURE ..... and you have no excuse ...........

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
And you have one interpretation of scripture, and everyone else has an interpretation that is slightly different. No one knows which one is exactly right. Once again, this comes down to you believing your opinion is superior to everyone else’s.

Amos Moses:
no, no, no ..... there is GODS interpretation ..... and we have NONE ..... anything outside of that is ERROR ....... and all you have is ERROR ................. as you do not even have scripture ........ you have given up your ability and right to judge who is and who is not ......

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
Do you not know what interpretation means?

Amos Moses:
do you know it does not matter what YOUR INTERPRETATION is ........ FYI ..... the only "interpretation" that has any weight is GODS ..... and when we allow the scriptures to speak FOR ITSELF ...... then that is Gods interpretation ..... that is exegesis ..... what you advocate is isegesis .... we do not bring our theology to the text and then try to justify it ..... we obtain it FROM THE TEXT ......... because the text is what we have ... NOT what we add ...... and we are FORBIDDEN from adding to the text ..............

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
Um...no, that's not what it means.
You know what the KJV is? It’s a translation, yes, but that also makes it an INTERPRETATION.
We have no choice when we read it, or read ANYTHING, but to interpret it. It just means use our brain to understand it.

Amos Moses:
right ... so when your kids decide they get to decide what you meant when you told them certain things ..... you are good with that .... because what YOU meant is garbage and what THEY "interpret" is right ............ do you even consider what you are saying and its application ..... FYI ..... God is not inclusive ..... He is EXCLUSIVE .....

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
"You just can't look at the moon too long."
You can read that sentence and interpret it two different ways. You can take it to mean that you should not look at the moon too long, or that you are being urged to look at the moon as long as you want to. Neither interpretation is wrong. What is the meaning meant? Only the person who posed the question knows.
And that's how it is with the Bible. Different Christians have different understandings on certain subject based on the words of the Bible. You may be correct that only one meaning is the correct one, but how can you possibly be arrogant enough to claim to know which one it is?

Amos Moses:
nope ..... wrong ... when you told your kids what you told them .... you did not mean what you said so that they could decide later what you meant ..... you meant what you said when you said it ..... and they do not get to decide later that you meant something different ...... unless you are an idiot ................

Throatwobbler Mangrove (this comment now deleted):
But this isn't about what you meant. The whole thing you are missing is HOW YOUR MESSAGE gets interpreted. It might get MISinterpreted along the way. You might be very clear on what you mean, and I'm sure you are. But language isn't always as precise as we want it to be and things get misunderstood. This isn't about changing the meaning. It's about getting the message clearly across. And you fail on that one every time.

Amos Moses:
nope .... The whole thing you are missing is .... I DO NOT CARE ....... my message is the SCRIPTURE ..... and the "interpretation" is what God said it is ..... and what He said is written down ..... and we do not get to add to it nor do we get to subtract from it ..... we do not get to use weasel words to get around it ..... we do not get to soften it so others can accept it ...... and it is not up to the SOPHISTRY of "our interpretation" .... and while you and i may have some difficulty in understanding it ..... GOD DOES NOT have any such difficulty ..... and our "interpretation" is not an excuse for saying it says something different than what He said ........
and when you tell your kids they have to home in the house by a certain time in the evening .... that does not mean "by interpretation" that at 5 minutes after that time ..... they are free to leave and go about their business in the middle of the night ........ again .... unless you are an idiot ........
scripture is not an invitation and it is not a plea and it is not open to what we want to believe it says ..... it is an ULTIMATUM .....

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
You exhaust the patience of even the most patient person, but I'll say this one more time. You do NOT understand what "interpret" means. It does mean to add, subtract or change. It does NOT. What it means is, and I'm using direct definitions from the dictionary now:
- to give or provide the meaning of; explain; explicate; elucidate:
- to interpret the hidden meaning of a parable.
- to construe or understand in a particular way:
- to interpret a reply as favorable.
- to bring out the meaning of (a dramatic work, music, etc.) by performance or execution.
- to perform or render (a song, role in a play, etc.) according to one's own understanding or sensitivity:
- to translate orally.
Notice NOTHING in all the many possible definitions involves changing anything. It is strictly about understanding, and nothing more.
As for God, you're saying God's perfect and nothing needs to be clarified. Maybe not from God's perspective, but it's US who are required to understand it correctly and sometimes words alone are not enough to do that and there can be some confusion or things getting lost in translation. That's nobody's fault, and it's not something anyone can do anything about, but nobody can say in situations like this that they are 100% right or wrong because it is not possible to know.

Amos Moses:
nope ... YOU do not understand what it means TO SCRIPTURE ..... and YOUR INTERPRETATION ....... means NOTHING ....

Throatwobbler Mangrove:
At this point it appears you are not even INTERESTED in having a coherent argument.
This has nothing to do with scripture. No one is arguing scripture.
This has to do with how we come to UNDERSTAND something and how it is spoken to us, and how it is possible to come to several different conclusions.
Once again, consider this example.
"You can't look at the sun too long."
That means two things. It means you should not look at the sun too long. It also means it's not possible to look at the sun long enough. They have opposite meanings, but the words do not change and can be INTERPRETED either way. So a person isn't wrong to believe it means that you shouldn't look at the sun too long, and the other person isn't wrong to believe there's no limit to how long you can look at the sun. There is confusion inherent in the original statement which has not been clarified.
That's EXACTLY how it is with SOME scripture.
And if you don't understand that, there's no hope for you to continue discussing it.

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 15 Comments [12/2/2017 12:56:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 65669

Heard a good one a few years ago from someone who saw one of those dumb bumper stickers reading THE EARTH IS YOUR MOTHER he rolled down his car window spat on the ground and told the GAIA freak IM SPITTING ON YOUR MOTHER stupid ignorant pagans

Flu-Bird, Moonbattery 42 Comments [9/13/2009 4:10:20 AM]
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Submitted By: DevilsChaplain

Quote# 28140

God does not want us not to use common sense.

celticmist138, Rapture Ready 73 Comments [8/10/2007 5:13:44 PM]
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Submitted By: MarylandBear

Quote# 114437

[In response to: Do you agree with Trump's call to boycott Starbucks for its red holiday cups?]

Yes Yes Yes The color red is a symbol for communism, or native Americans, this is the united states of america not the soviet states of commie-land, the only problem I have with this, isn't about why he is boycotting them, it is why he is not boycotting them, Starbucks supports gay marriage!

harry truman, debate.org 40 Comments [11/15/2015 5:21:50 AM]
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Submitted By: TheReasonator

Quote# 128733

[Fuck it, this one's a quadfor]

If I wanted to destroy a civilisation the first thing I'd do is teach their women feminism to turn them against the men & lower birth rates


2/ Then I'd open the borders to hostile racial-religious aliens who I'd then teach are being oppressed by the majority.


3/ Then I would shit all over the civilisation's history, cultural norms & achievements so they felt bad about their history


4/ Then I'd teach their children that ackkkshully, these other civilisations invented this stuff, not your civilisation, ie Muslims/Math etc


5/ Then I'd get control of their cultural engine I'd paint their men as the worlds most evil oppressors responsible for all bad in the world


6/ Then I'd teach them that any semblance of self preservation instinct was the world's most evil sin, ie. - racism


7/ If I got REALLY bold I'd start telling them their very existence in the lands their ancestors built gave them "white privilege", LOL!


8/ If they bought that little package of bullshit I'd go hog fucking wild and just throw the borders completely open


9/ Eventually when they were a minority the gloves would come way off, I'd use my armies of third worlds against them relentlessly.


10/ Laws would go from "hate speech" (to silence them) to laws forbidding them from even having children or owning property


11/ Hell, they believed my "white privilege" lie, what can they do as minority now? I'd be my greatest victory since South Africa.


12/ I'd also promote every kind of degenerate behaviour possible too, from bizarre sex stuff to outright mental illness. Forgot that one!

nontolerantman, Twitter 15 Comments [7/2/2017 12:10:04 AM]
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Quote# 49909

So let me get this straight. You won't believe in God, what proof do you need?

You won't believe in what the Bible says (even tho there are countless manuscripts that were copied letter by letter)

you won't believe people's personal testimonies

you won't believe in people's near death expierences

you won't be in miracles

you won't believe that the complexity of our planet, universe, and even our own bodies is proof of a creater (even when we have not searched the entireity of space, or can drill to center of our own planet, and science has been wrong in the past, you will not admit that).

you just have a rebuttle and an answer to everything, no matter how logical it sounds or not.

So what proof do you need to believe in God?

It sounds like you want Him to fly out of Heaven, land on your doorstep, and make your life perfect. What you want is a personal genie, and have an unlimited ammount of wishes. If God doesn't make your life perfect, there's no reason to believe in Him right??

That's where sin comes in, and the problems in our own lives are because we live in a perfect world. If you don't want to believe in God, fine, no one can force you, but stop ignoring the facts and having childish answers to everything I listed above. Just be honest about why you don't want to follow God. The purpose of knowing God is having a personal relationship with Him!

The Red Aaron, Yahoo Answers 53 Comments [10/17/2008 9:22:44 PM]
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Submitted By: CaseAgainstFaith

Quote# 133125

Stay on the soapbox, please! The teachers union and the entire school system must be destroyed. To be an administrator, one must be vehemently anti-American, anti-male, anti-White and anti-capitalist. Education has become a poisonous leech sucking the life blood from adults and poisoning the minds of our children. I tried teaching as a retirement job - couldn't stand to work for and with "educated" idiots.

Aevery_Freeman, Free Republic 14 Comments [10/18/2017 8:56:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 85621

[OP says that her 11-year-old daughter has a project that involves painting a statue of the Aztec god Quetzalcoatl, and is wondering if this is okay].

"They feel this would be a good hands-on learning project for the students"

Learning what??? Idolatry???!!!

That would make me VERY uncomfortable!!! I definitely would not want my daughter to participate in this "project." I would suggest you ask for an alternate project or provide a Christian item for your daughter to paint (a cross, figurines for a creche, etc.) while the rest of the class paints their idols. Or have her paint a poster board with the days of creation and paste printouts of the appropriate Bible verses under each day, illustrating the Christian version of creation. And/or complain to the principal and/or school board. There are most likely other parents uncomfortable with this, too. And if nobody nips this in the bud this year, it's likely to be compounded by being repeated next year as well.* Unless the school also promotes Christian projects, I would think they would have no leg to stand on to promote false god/false religion projects. [Although that still wouldn't make idolatrous activities acceptable, it seems like it would provide a legal argument for fighting it.] Atheists and followers of false religions complain that they are offended by Christian things. Well, these false religious things offend us Christians! Maybe we should use this same tack to fight back!

Tiger Lily, Rapture Ready 56 Comments [1/27/2012 4:14:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Jubne

Quote# 134733

(You might believe that this is just some unoriginal troll doing a version of this copypasta, but no. This person was actually trying to be threatening in an argument and sees herself as a goddess of disease.)

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the spread of disease, I’ve been involved in every historical plague, and I have billions of kills. I am trained in biological warfare and I’m the one with the title of Disease Goddess. You are nothing to me but just another victim. I will wipe you the fuck out with symptoms the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am sorting through my array of pathogens and your DNA is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. My plagues can be anywhere, anytime, and they can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with the half of all the possible symptoms these diseases can induce. Not only am I extensively trained with creating plagues, but I have access to the entire biological arsenal of every country that has one and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit pathogens all over you and you will drown in them. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

bendysbutt, Tumblr 20 Comments [12/1/2017 11:11:43 AM]
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Quote# 113530

First of all, our God is holy, and He said that the definition of beauty is something that is holy. No young lady, no matter how beautiful she may be thought of in her face, is beautiful if she is not holy. No thing that man ever created, no matter how skillfully it was crafted, is a beautiful work of art if it wasn't made to be holy. Beauty and holiness go together.

Now this is true when it comes to music and the playing of instruments. Every instrument was made to be played beautifully. God gave the Jews music. God gave King David the ability to make instruments, and the Jewish community today, though they are the enemies of the Gospel, still have a shred of what King David had. Many of the classical musicians are Jewish. If you want to hear how a violin should be played, listen to a Jewish man play it. If you want to hear what an oboe should sound like, listen to a Jewish man play that oboe.

Alan Ives, Mom of 9's Place 24 Comments [10/12/2015 3:11:32 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 32225

I do not like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Ben Stein, Snopes.com, CBS Sunday Morning News 55 Comments [12/11/2007 1:04:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocelyn

Quote# 27383

[If this happened to you (God came to you and told you to find a homosexual and kill him), what would you do?]

While I find it hard to imagine that scenario you describe would happen, if it were confirmed through prayer, then for one to be obedient to God, one would have to be prepared to act.

NeTrips, Christian Forums 45 Comments [7/18/2007 8:02:31 AM]
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Quote# 103923

I will agree with you that homosexuals are often treated worse than people who commit other sins, but have you ever asked yourself why? I will give you a couple of reason I believe this happens. In the last 20 years (your whole life time) homosexuals have decided to "come out of the closet" so to speak. What they mean by that is that they will no longer hide their sin. Okay, as much as I hate the sin (all sin) I do understand that people who are un-saved will continue to commit them. However, what I don't understand is the fact that it is not just 'not hiding' their sin that they want, they want to flaunt it in everyone's face.

Here is an example that happened in the town where I live. There as a male teacher who decided that he was going to 'come out' and he did so in front of the students he was teaching. Many area pastors, parents, etc... were very upset and lobbied to get him fired. People on the other side said that they were being in tolerant and should show more Christian love. Even some Christians claim this. Here is my stand, I think he should have been fired. But allow me to explain. If a teacher came to his or her class and announced that they were a chronic liar, or an adulterer, or a child molester, or addicted to pornography and that they were coming out because they were not ashamed of it, then I think they should be fired also.

We would not put up with a heterosexual teacher bringing their sexual life into the classroom, so why should we put up with a homosexual teacher doing so? I will agree with you there is a double standard, but not as you seem to think there is. If you dare to speak out against the sin of homosexuality you are labeled as intolerant. Yet they can bash Christians all you want and no one cares.

Here is another point. You said you did not know anyone who wanted to be homosexual and therefore you do not think they have a choice. If that is true then why do they publicly announce that they are on a recruiting campaign? What does a recruiting campaign have to do with something no one chooses in the first place? Their own rhetoric shows there is more to this then a poor soul who can't help themselves.

Ralph, Behind the Badge 22 Comments [10/5/2014 6:35:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 123117

[ So why am I bisexual and a trans man if I didn't want to be? In fact, I tried to kill myself twice; THAT'S how bad I don't want to be what I am. So what happened? Nature stepped in and made me a certain way. That makes it 'natural'. I hate it. I hate risking being hate-crimes every time I walk out the door. I hate that no one I'm attracted to will ever be attracted back. I hate that I lost friends in high school and was mercilessly bullied and beaten instead. Why do you think people choose this? ]

Dude, I don’t give a fuck if you chose to be a fag or if you were “born that way”, you’re still a filthy degenerate.

[ Why are you so butt hurt about people’s personal choices? ]

So you admit being a fag is a choice? Cool man

[ Way to dodge the question. Why are you scared of gays? ]

Mmmkay we are not on the same page here hun. I’m not afraid of the gays, I want them dead.

FormerFundie, tumblr 13 Comments [12/21/2016 9:34:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 134771

quote," With all the different canons, versions, and translations over the years, I'd say the Bible has had quite a lot of changing." I am afraid you do have a point. We are witnessing Theological Chaos. A making of our own deceived flawed opinions and pride.
But within this sad confuse plethora of versions, the Truth of God's Word can still be found to be " Unchanging". But it requires, due diligence and a hunger and a thirst for righteousness to rightly divide the Word and the In filling of the Holy Spirit of rightly divide between cultural conformity and the Word of God that does not conform to a changing culture.
This kind of discernment comes ONLY by Prayer and a Humble Heart that searches for God to fill the Void within.
question, do you believe in an Unchanging God Who Creates?

Elca, Christian News Network 3 Comments [12/2/2017 1:58:32 PM]
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Quote# 134681

The left is making my jokes into reality.

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 23 Comments [11/29/2017 9:47:21 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 21489

I am studying the crusades right now. From what I can see the catholics were the ones doing all the bad stuff, yet in every book I read they say the christians, when in fact it was the catholics.

yellowbo, Rapture Ready 41 Comments [3/2/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Matthew

Quote# 50344

Based on the web sites below, I doubt that many have proof. Is this another example of how all knowledge begins with faith? Is it true that scientists must have faith that the universe is inherently orderly, even though there is no law or theorem that says it must be? Otherwise why waste their time?

...As a lover of Christ, science and mathematics I am quite used to faith AND reason.

(he then lists a couple of links to math and science blogs where people ask the same thing)

ignoramus_the_great, Yahoo Answers 54 Comments [10/22/2008 2:40:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Amanda

Quote# 134759

The whole world is going to be brought into line with Judaism. That is the religion of the Antichrist! Everywhere today, professed Christians are claiming to have found their “Hebrew roots.” It is becoming a huge movement. Another popular term today is “Torah observing Christians.” It's a big buzz amongst homeschoolers. This is the satanic merging of Judaism with Christianity into a false religion of end time apostasy. You've probably heard a lot of talk about “blood moons” and celebrating “feast days.” Beware of it, it is of the Devil. Jews only comprise 2% of the American population, yet Jews account also for 30% of Buddhists in America (aka, JewBu's). There will be a uniting of Judaism and Buddhism in the end times.

We are hearing about Chrislam (Christianity merged with Islam). Satan is trying to dilute the different religions into one movement. The different religions won't lose their individual identities; but rather, will share a common religious view of Theosophical (Luciferian) spirituality instead of Biblical theology. This Luciferian dogma includes a tolerance for homosexuality. The Devil's message today is for everyone to unite in the name of peace.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 10 Comments [12/2/2017 10:59:04 AM]
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Quote# 112521

dogma is a good thing.
well,supposing you're trying to teach your kid that 1+1=2 and the smart kittle bugger comes back at you and says, no 1+1=11, and 2+2 is 22 and so on.
at some point you have to go back to math which is a very dogmatic and repressive system. That makes you eeeevil. And closed minded too!

Ronkonkoma, AtheistForums.org 23 Comments [9/5/2015 3:36:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 21502

[The fault lies not with the woman who refused him but with the man who continued despite her protests.]

WRONG. The woman sinned by not dressing modestly, and tempting the man. The man sinned by lusting after a woman that is not his wife, and raping her. In your example the woman sowed seeds of lust in the man, and she reaped the consequences of her actions. While both were guilty of sin, legally the man will be punished criminally.

[Looking at it in another light, if a man went out with a fancy suit and got mugged, would you say that the man was tempting his mugger?]

No the mugging is not his fault, nor did he sin. He may have not been very smart about being on a good side of town, and not going overboard in being flashy. I don't believe the Bible says that being rich is a sin, but it does talk about women dressing modestly.

Mrs Kellie, Teens-4-christ 67 Comments [3/2/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 134737

Hugh Hefner would have been stoned to death in the Old Testament if a godly kind reigned over the land. But, even though I am sad for Mr. Hefner, I do not pity him, because he had 91 years to repent toward God and receive God's forgiveness through Christ's sacrifice on the cross. The Holy Bible plainly teaches that God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked, and neither do I. I am sad that Mr. Hefner didn't die in the Lord. Instead, he died in his sins. It is sad indeed. While the ungodly world rejoices in celebration over the wicked life of the man Hugh Hefner, redeemed Christians mourn (yet rejoice that he is gone) over the his death. ...

Ezekiel 33:11, “Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?”

God was good to Mr. Hefner, as He is to ALL OF US. Psalms 145:9, “The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.” Luke 6:35, “But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.” Hugh Hefner lived a long and enjoyable life, too much so, and God extended every opportunity for Hugh to repent, but he spit in God's face. Ecclesiastes 11:9, “Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment.” Judgment day has come for Hugh Hefner. His time of mercy has expired. HELL IS HOT ENOUGH!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 14 Comments [12/1/2017 3:35:09 PM]
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