Quote# 137013

The Most Important Thing A Man Can Study

Sales, game, marketing, a good part of common sense, wisdom. All of these words are largely describing the same thing. The right understanding of this thing has made kings of men and made legends of commoners. It has allowed for take over of vast empires and was required for the empires to be built up in the first place. Without it you’d have a hard time consistently making sales or scoring dates, much less winning a war, cultural or otherwise. This thing has allowed evil to prosper when evil takes advantage of it. Likewise this thing has also allowed for good to grow in a fallen world.

Now I think I’ve teased enough and you’re probably wondering what on earth I’m talking about. What I’m talking about is the most valuable skill that a man can learn and that is to have an understanding of human nature. This goes by many names I always thought of it as wisdom but I’ve heard it called other things. And like I said sales, game, marketing, politics, and pretty much everything else on this earth revolved around it. If you fail to grasp it you’ll fail to attain success in life likewise grasp it and gain a deep understanding of it and the world will be putty in your hands for better or for worse.

The Irrational Ape

I do not mean to say that we are nothing but brute beasts completely enslaved to our lessen nature but rather to say that for the most of humanity the animal nature holds sway over the angel nature. As many wise men have pointed out man is a “cross” between an animal and something higher. In order for a man to attain success he must master both nature’s. He must bring the animal nature under his control and work towards the higher nature and cultivate it. But we are talking about a select group of any population.

The masses as a whole for better or for worse are completely controlled by their animal nature. The study and understanding of this animal nature therefore is essential for getting what you want from this world. Whether you simply want to get rich and go retire to a nice island and watch the world burn from a safe distance or whether you want to change the path that we’re on for the better, you’ll need a deep understanding of this.

As great as logic and morality are, and as essential as they are for all the best things in man, they in and of themselves are not good motivators and not enough to affect change. Hence those who appeal to the baser instincts often win out against those who try to raise everyone higher. I remember good copywriting was once described to me as essentially telling people which of the 7 deadly sin that the product or service would fufill but in flowery language. This may have been a bit of an exaggeration but there is truth to what was said.

Hacking The Human Animal

Those who are power in today’s day and age did not get there through sword (or gun) or through might. They got there through understanding the human animal. Identifying weak points or things that could be exploited and then doing so. They found that wisdom (meaning understanding of human nature) was more powerful than the sword, or the pen, or anything else for that matter.

Right now you have many conservatives reading “Rules For Radicals” after being soundly defeated since…well since their inception essentially (has the world gotten more or less conservative?) because they are starting to learn that without a understanding of human nature all the good intentions in the world are worthless. The same could be said of any political party, tribe, business, or anything else.

Those who understand human nature lead men for better or for worse. The two most valuable attributes you can develop are strength and wisdom. And in today’s day and age when a giant global power structure has legions of sheep dogs to call down on you should you display strength against them I’d say that wisdom is the more important one (but obviously both should be developed as much as possible). Things are more determined by the pen than by the sword today.

To Lead Mankind

Again whether you want to start a successful business, start a cult with lots of groupies, or lead mankind to the next golden age the development of wisdom meaning the understanding of human nature is critical. I’ve talked about many important skills on this site and how to develop them but broken down they basically fall into developing strength or wisdom. I’ll break this down further eventually but for now just understand the critical importance of grasping human nature.

Charles Sledge, CHARLES SLEDGE 7 Comments [3/3/2018 7:29:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 36661

As a Christian and a Young-Earth Creationist, I don't have to believe that Muslims or Wiccans are lying when they say they saw a miracle. I can believe, and I do believe, that they very well may have seen a miracle; but I would consider it a counterfeit miracle of Satan.
How would I know whether a miracle is of Satan or of God? It depends on the context. If the miracle causes people to realize that God is great and wonderful, and to put their trust in Him, it was very likely from God. If the miracle encourages people to think something other than God is great, and to trust in that other instead, it's a counterfeit miracle of Satan.

Zuniceratops, FaithCommnityNetwork 38 Comments [3/24/2008 7:56:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Drekoguk

Quote# 36704

You may be a fundy atheist if....

25. You claim that evolution and the big bang are two entirely separate theories that explain different aspects of the universe, yet, in what school of learning can you find any real separation or distinction between the two?
31. You think that humans are products of chance but when it comes to human reason we can believe in logic! (Think about it !)
48. You are a person who absolutely believes that life came from nonlife, yet absolutely deny the possibility of anyone rising from the dead.
60. You insist that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", then claim that Jesus never existed.
78. You refuse to use the word "excruciating" because of its origins in describing the agonies of crucifixion. (ex crucis - "from the cross")
123. You're convinced that people only believe in God because they're afraid of going to hell...despite the fact that if there is no God, then there's probably no hell either
157. You think God was cruel for killing all of those innocent babies in the flood, and that Christians are cruel for opposing a woman's right to abort her baby
162. You spell America "AermiKKKa" and Christian "KKKristian
168. You have not seen "The Passion of the Christ," and you don’t know anyone who has seen it
180. You become upset when a Christian says that not everything in the Bible should be taken literally.
210. You insist on capitalizing "atheist"
264. You think eating bread and drinking wine is cannibalism
281. Last of all -- you write this website a letter which includes a rebuttal to the above listing!

Unnamed comic genius., Tektonics 85 Comments [3/25/2008 9:14:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Frank

Quote# 36703

Maybe we are seeing light that hasn't reached us yet. Why does light
have to reach us for us to see it? Couldn't we see it on it's

Annonymous, talk.origins 74 Comments [3/25/2008 5:33:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Scienceman123

Quote# 36672

If Jesus never existed, then how do you explain the Dead Sea Scrolls? The Gospels? If Jesus never existed are you saying God doesnt exist either? If that is true, then how do you explain phenomena such as people being healed from cancer when the doctors say they will never be healed. Paralyzed people walking again when the doctors say it will never happen. Is that just blind luck or what? The doctors didn't do it, so it wasn't science that did it. How would you explain that?

Ben, Jesus Never Existed Message Board 69 Comments [3/25/2008 5:54:29 PM]
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Submitted By: antichrist

Quote# 36721

I think I have changed. I don't think I like Jews at all, they deserve no respect from us after what they did to Christ.

The Arabs could rule the holy land, but I would rather see a new Kingdom of Jerusalem. Israel is a state of terror and must be destroyed.

Suecianus, CF 53 Comments [3/26/2008 9:09:00 AM]
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Quote# 36724

I was at the local cemetary this morning (Yeah, I know..I'm weird), but it is very peaceful there and there is where I can talk to the Lord. But also was eagerly awaiting for the Rapture as well. I wanna see the graves burst open!

FreeInHim, RaptureReady 84 Comments [3/26/2008 7:51:56 AM]
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Submitted By: lissie

Quote# 36728

A lot of people here seem to forget that evolution is a thoroughly pagan pantheistic world veiw. It originates with the belief in reincarnation. And most evolutionists are cowards and don't like a real debate with a knowledgable scholar of creationism. As for all creation stories being taught is not necessary our society doesn't have everyone of every religion in it. Should we teaching the ancient Greek view of creation. Any ancient Greeks out there?

John D, Yahoo Answers. 47 Comments [3/26/2008 3:46:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Zipperback

Quote# 36752

[How would you frame a disease that has already killed 25 million people?]

I like to think of it as society's filter!

with a few exceptions it picks the immoral and base people who are gratuitously polluting the image of God they bear, and slowly removes them from circulation. Like the death penalty, there is an occasional innocent person who dies, but for the most part the system works well and is well worth having. If AIDS did not exist our nation would have spiraled into debauchery much faster than it is now progressing in that direction. If only we could create a disease that only attacks socialists or radical muslims I'd welcome that plague too.

It seems odd to me that the same kooks who want a reduction in human population "for the environment" also sometimes want a cure for AIDS. I would think an eco-nut should love AIDS.

ME-262, Freerepublic 54 Comments [3/26/2008 5:18:37 PM]
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Quote# 137005

The opposite of MTD?

Setting aside the praxis vs. doxos dimension of religion (and what constitutes religion), there's also the dimension of "theology/beliefs on the supernatural" versus "morals/ethics/vision of the good life." And it seems to me that a big part of "Moralistic Therapeutic Deism," as contrasted with more Traditional varieties of religious life/practice, is that it retains the former* while discarding the latter in favor of the ethics of the secular mainstream. You know, the sort of folks who say that what's wrong with religion isn't so much the whole "God" thing, or the "going to church/temple/mosque/shrine" thing, but the surviving, "backwards, bad ol'" pre-Modern ethics.

But what does one call the reverse of this? Those who disagree with Traditional religion on the whole "God" question, but think that those parts on dealing with your fellow man were more right than Modern, liberal "ethics"? Who say that while one can credibly dispute whether those who set the words of the Old Testament to parchment had experiences with God, one cannot dispute they had plenty of experience with their fellow human beings. Who might disagree with Saint Paul about the nature of Jesus, but agree with him on the nature of women? What does one call atheist fans of the Albigensian Crusade and the Inquisitions?

*For a time, at least, but the statistics show that churches that "go MTD" tend to die as their congregations — or more specifically, what kids they have — assimilate into the secular mainstream, per the centuries-old criticism of deism as gateway/slippery slope to atheism.

#religion #culture #morality #traditionalism #secularization #atheism #atheist traditionalist #moralistic therapeutic deism #xunzi #roll hard left and die

arcticdementor, Tumblr 6 Comments [3/3/2018 7:15:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 100657

One of the most hideous evils of modern times is the corrupting of the Word of God. The New International Version (NIV) of the Bible is an evil work, a piece of filth, and should go into your garbage pail if you have one. Tragically, the NIV is by far the most popular Bible in America today amongst ministers and laity. The NIV completely removes the necessary word “begotten” from John 3:16...

•King James Bible: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

•New International Version: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

The NIV teaches heresy, because Jesus is not God's one and only Son. By removing the all-important word “begotten” they have perverted the words of the living God. Evidently the ignoramuses who translated the NIV never read John 1:12, “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.” Those unscholarly intellectuals never read 1st John 3:1, “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.” The truth of the matter is that God has MANY sons, but only one BEGOTTEN Son. If you are a born-again child of God, male or female, then you are an adopted son of God.

Jesus was born of a miraculous virgin birth (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23), and entered this world as the Godhead incarnate, i.e., the Godhead in the flesh (Colossians 2:9; 1st Timothy 3:16). Please note that all my Scriptures references are solely to the trustworthy inspired King James Bible. All modern bible versions have been tampered with and are corrupt.

How could the NIV translating committee be so stupid? It is no small matter to translate the Word's of Almighty God, especially when you CHANGE what He said. The Bible, in numerous references, warns and pronounces a curse upon all Bible corrupters (Deuteronomy 4:2; Galatians 1:8-9; 2nd Peter 3:16; Revelation 22:19). “...for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God” (Jeremiah 23:36). Now they're catering to the sinful agendas of lesbians and feminists with their NIV 2011, which is a gender-inclusive Bible. Please remember that lesbianism, transgender, gender equality and unisex are synonymous with the sinful philosophy and lifestyle of feminism, which is rebellion against God-ordained masculine authority.

The King James Bible translates John 3:16 absolutely 100% correct. The word “begotten” is there in John 3:16, because Jesus is indeed the only begotten Son of God. Every born again believer is an adopted son of God... “To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons” (Galatians 4:5). Every Christian is an adopted child into God's family. So if you have a Bible, make sure that the word “begotten” in present in John 3:16, or else throw it into the garbage after tearing it up. Why Would Anyone Use the NIV?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious.org 47 Comments [4/27/2014 4:38:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 136995

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Anti-gun activists alter billboard ad to read, 'Shoot a School Kid'"

(caption below photo: An activist group says it altered a billboard in Las Vegas to read, "Shoot a School Kid Only $29." (Associated Press)

Lady Checkmate:
That's alt-left humor. The idiots think they made a point, y'know, other than making the point that they're idiots.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 18 Comments [3/2/2018 1:30:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136975

That is NOT a small house!!!

About a year ago a native German told BNI that she lost her job and became homeless and was forced to live on the street with her children — the EVIL German government wouldn’t help the family because they weren’t Muslims.

Our anti-Christ, God hater leaders are RUTHLESS and CRUEL to white European Jews and Christians.

EVERYTHING is given to Muslims who never worked; are hostile to native Europeans and have zero loyalty to our people and nations.

Hardworking Italian taxpayers who lost their jobs and became homeless along with their children and babies are regarded as WORTHLESS without any rights. God help them!

Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 8 Comments [3/1/2018 12:52:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136369


You are absolutely correct relative to the need for real Christians to force our beliefs on others! We have numerous verses within the Christian Bible that command us to do so! For example, Matthew 28:30, to wit:
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

Relative to the subject of abortionism, we also know that aborted babies are ALL going directly to hell. Because they have not had the chance to hear the Gospel and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Therefore, it is a very simple logical syllogism that any real Christian has a duty to prevent them from being forever tossed in the fiery pits, duh!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Disqus Grace and Truth 11 Comments [2/5/2018 4:11:41 PM]
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Quote# 134749

This is the cause that any real Bible-believing Christian needs to support. Our Christian Bible defines sodomites as those worthy of death. We also know that they are hated by Jesus (Ps. 5:5) and that we are not to abet them in their worship of feces (Gal. 5:19-21). It needs to be every Christian's modus operandi to reject these homofags and lesbidisianists whenever and wherever we happened to encounter them. It is long overdue that "mark them" (Rom. 16:17) and get them back to fringes where these disgusting sinners belong. Bakeries, that serve food, including to children, are places that must be maintained in a hygienic manner, and therefore do not warrant the presence of the sodomite!

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Christian News Network 18 Comments [12/2/2017 8:27:01 AM]
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Quote# 136869

Lady Checkmate's headline: "PERSECUTION: “In God We Trust” Removed From Classroom After Atheist Parent Complains"

(Cut and pasted story from Todd Starnes follows)

A Wisconsin fourth grade school teacher removed “Christian symbolism” from her classroom after an atheist parent complained.

Among the items that were taken down at Roosevelt Elementary School – a cross, a poster listing “virtues and vices” and a poster that read, “In God We Trust” and a picture frame that included the American flag and the words “God Bless America.”

Yes, good readers – an atheist was apparently triggered by the words “God Bless America” and suffered a near-catastrophic microagression.

Television station WTMJ reports that parent Rob Moore was “infuriated” and “fuming” over the classroom decorations.

Moore is president of a Freedom From Religion Foundation chapter – a notorious group of atheists, agnostics and freethinkers that bully school districts. They are determined to eradicate Christianity from the public market place.

“There is an undeniable Christian theme in (the) classroom decorations and instruction,” Freedom From Religion Foundation attorney Ryan Jayne wrote in a letter to the school district.

Jayne said the religious-themed decorations violated the U.S. Constitution.

“Religious classroom decorations violate this basic constitutional prohibition by creating the appearance that the District prefers religion over non religion, and Christianity over all other faiths,” the attorney wrote.

The atheists also took issue because there was a “Child’s Christian Bible” in the school library – “but no other religious texts.”

Oh, the horror.

“Religion is a divisive force in public schools,” the attorney wrote.

The Kenosha Unified School District did not confirm whether the teacher removed the items that triggered the atheists. They issued a statement saying the matter was under investigation.

Lady Checkmate:
They NOT only hate Christians, they hate America, patriotic americans and EVERYONE who dares to disagree with them. Again:

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 14 Comments [2/24/2018 12:36:53 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136966

Nolte: Trump’s Super-Early 2020 Announcement Kills Another Dumb Norm — It’s Also Smart

Donald Trump has already announced his intent to run for re-election in 2020, which has mercifully killed off one of the most obnoxious conceits ever — the asinine spectacle of watching a first-term president pretend to play Hamlet over the decision of whether or not to run for re-election.

The “permanent campaign” is already a quarter-century old. Naturally, it was brought to life by the grasping Clintons. The whole idea of Americans being allowed to exhale in-between presidential elections was shattered forever the moment Bill Clinton took the oath in early 1993. Then, in 2000, after he was constitutionally blocked from running again, Hillary began her 16 year quest.

And so, along with vanquishing forever the hideous Clintons (unless you count Bankrupt Terry), Trump is being brazenly upfront about his desire to win a second term and his intent to mercilessly campaign for that goal starting right now. This announcement is not only refreshingly honest, it is strategically smart.

To begin with, Trump can start raising money immediately and openly, instead of through some dumb exploratory committee, and he will need it. Trump will not only be fighting feverish Democrats and their stable of plutocrat billionaires, but untold billions of corporate dollars spent to destroy him by a mainstream media still smarting over the humiliation of 2016, and eager for payback.

Moreover, by removing the conceit of not campaigning for president, Trump does not have to stand around and take it as his opponents come after him (not that he would, anyway). For example, there is no question that even after the Evan McMuffin debacle, the sell-out crybabies in the increasingly left-wing NeverTrump will attempt to run another spoiler. Trump now has free reign to suck up all that money and to define these pathetic chumps, to get in their head, before they even step in the batter’s box.

He will also have free reign to go after the growing pile of Democrats who will seek to unseat him. Whether it is McAuliffe, Kamala Harris, Pocahontas, or whomever, Trump can work his genius in locating and mercilessly poking at their weak spot, i.e., “Low Energy Jeb,” “Crooked Hillary,” “Little Marco.”

During the raucous 2016 election, while the super-geniuses in the media were laughing at Trump’s “childish” name calling, it was that alpha male name-calling (real Americans call it “ball breaking”) that was devastating his opponents, grinding them into betas– and in this era of TV, betas do not win presidential elections.

Of course, what will be happening behind the scenes is just as vital. Trump has already chosen tech-genius Brad Parscale to run his campaign. Parscale, along with Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, were the two responsible for Trump’s brilliant online 2016 strategy, a stealth campaign that made Hillary’s digital effort’s (inherited from Obama) look like something out of the Flintstone’s.

While our clueless and lazy media were writing story after story, smugly snarking over Trump’s lack of a campaign infrastructure, Parscale and Kushner micro-targeted voters in ways previously thought impossible.

All of this, of course, adds up to Trump’s true sweet spot, his uncanny ability to psyche out his opponents, to unnerve them, to emasculate them, to make them look weak, to live under their skin. Knowing that Trump is already this far ahead of the 2020 game is intimidating enough. Knowing that whatever he is planning will be targeted against you is all part of the psy-ops strategy Trump has used for decades to stay on top.

Finally, there is Trump’s primary opposition — the corrupt mainstream media. Trump’s early announcement accomplishes one small thing and one Big Thing. The small thing is killing off all the fake news the media intended to publish (using phony sources) about Trump not running for re-election. This is an end-run around the media’s intent to make him look weak, indecisive, and beleaguered with lies.

The Big Thing is burning out the media. Trump’s seemingly inexhaustible energy and relish for a fight is one of his most potent political weapons. By announcing his intent to run for a second term, the media are automatically put on the defensive. But they are also facing three more years of lost weekends and holidays, bitter battles, and the endless fatigue and burn-out that comes with it.

When the media are tired, they become nasty and desperate, they reveal their biases and insufferable elitism, they flail with fake news. All of this serves to hasten a credibility death spiral that has already tanked the media’s approval ratings into the low twenties.

Trump’s smartest move in 2016 was to define his opponents in the media as the left-wing liars they truly are. By running his permanent 2020 campaign openly, he keeps them guessing, running, chasing, worrying, stressing — and he keeps his boot squarely on their squirming pencil necks.

JOHN NOLTE, Breitbart 14 Comments [3/1/2018 12:50:06 PM]
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Quote# 136959

“Shacking-up” as it is called in the United States is the sin of fornication. I have to be careful when responding to e-mails, because I am so loving in my heart that there is a temptation at times to coddle people in their sins, to sanction and encourage them in their wrong ways, just to make them feel better. But I refuse to go there and become like that, which would make me a horrible Christian and bad preacher if I did that. It is not okay to make somebody feel okay who is living in sin.

If you shack up with someone, and they leave you at some point, you have no biblical or legal right to complain! She is not your wife or husband! Perhaps you say, “Well, if a couple are living together as a man and wife, maybe God sees them as married.” Okay, then why get married? I'll tell you why, because without a legally binding marriage there is no way to hold someone accountable for committing adultery! And here is biblical “proof” that shacking-up is NOT the same as marriage. 1st Corinthians 7:2, “Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.” So if shacking-up were considered marriage in God's eyes, then why would God tell a person to get married to avoid fornicating? Clearly, living together, that is, cohabiting in a physically intimate relationship, is not a marriage in God's sight.

Again, “Shacking-up” as it is called in the United States is the sin of fornication. 1st Corinthians 6:18, “Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.” People have lost their shame in Europe, Australia, the United States and around the world. It is a very shameful thing for a woman to be pregnant and unmarried. Congratulations On Your Bastard!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 8 Comments [3/1/2018 12:48:11 PM]
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Quote# 136851

jesus loved the demons more than the pigs and the pigs more than you...awwwwwwwwwwwww
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atheists were made from communists who were made by albert pike and other satanists wahhhhhh!
the blinding hatred comes from predestination. Jacob i loved but esau i hated. Two teams are being chosen: my team captain is Holy Father inventer of quarks and positrons, galaxies, and dark energy, your's is satam, the dust eater. problem for you, my dad is picking teams for both sides and chooses only his kids on our side, Holy nepotism. cloyed much? sorry not a drop for your tongue. thanks for the persecution, my 401J retirement account is sweet!

Demetrius Jones, Dwindling In Unbelief 11 Comments [2/23/2018 4:22:50 PM]
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Submitted By: SomeApe

Quote# 136879

Harry Potter Bathes in the Blood of Virgins. The Plot: Harry and his friends return once again to Mephistopheles' School of Witchcraft and Wizardry to study the use of magic. Harry loves life at the school much more than he does life with his non-magical relatives (or "unbelievers" as they're called by the wizards). However, he realizes that once this year is over, he'll be more than halfway through his schooling. With no idea what to do with his life next, Harry starts to wish there was some way he could stay young forever.

The author of the Harry Potter books J.K. Rowling

[Images: Two obviously doctored photos of a Harry Potter book with Harry covered in blood and J. K. Rowling with a pentagram drawn on her forehead and glowing eyes]

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 24 Comments [2/24/2018 12:43:59 PM]
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Quote# 104632

The wave of doubt in the Word of God is rising to a tsunami. Two lies are the primary sources for this doubt: 1) homosexual orientation is God given, and 2) evolution.

“Christian” proponents of the first lie include Matthew Vines, author of “God and the Gay Christian,” recently released by Convergent Books, and Vicky Beeching, popular CCM singer and social commentator.  

Vines discounts the biblical accounts of God’s view of homosexuals by claiming that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed over an attempted gang rape; and that Leviticus 18 is old, outdated law.

Beeching recently “came out” as “gay,” declaring that God’s love would approve her affection for another woman. And she stated her determination to spread the lie: “I feel certain God loves me just the way I am, and I have a huge sense of calling to communicate that to young people.”

Another “Christian” singer has gone public, promoting the other lie, evolution. The false science of evolution presents biblical history as so many myths and legends. Michael Gungor, with his wife, Lisa, form the Christian band, Gungor. Like many who doubt the biblical account of creation, Gungor has bought into “theistic evolution,” the belief that somehow, God used the evolution process to create the world and all of creation. Of course, to do this, the biblical account has to be discarded as just myth and legend.

To Gungor, the Genesis account of creation is simply a poem, one of great intrinsic value, but not to be taken literally. But, as someone asked, “If you don’t believe the first 11 chapters of Genesis, why do you need John 3:16?”

This attempt to shove evolution into God’s narrative of creation demonstrates monumental ignorance of the evidence. Author Vance Ferrell, has compiled nearly 1000 pages of evidence in his book, The Evolution Handbook, confounding the “theory” of evolution.

Part two of the chapter on age of the earth illustrates King David’s declaration: “The heavens declare the glory of God...” “Ferrell describes stars so enormous in diameter that they could not have existed for millions of years, or their initial mass would have been impossibly large.”

Also in those “heavens” there are enormous stars that radiate a million times the energy of our sun. But the evolutionist’s own theory about star energy indicates these stars don’t contain enough hydrogen to maintain fusion longer than 300,000 years.

When it comes to our own sun, its radiation that warms our planet is causing it to slowly shrink. To be its present size, it would have been so large 50,000 years ago as to boil our oceans.

Ferrell’s book is a very thick read and a huge indictment of evolutionary theory. Key topics such as big bang, mutations, age of earth, inaccurate dating methods, effects of Noah’s flood, tectonics, archeological dating, DNA, are included in devastating detail.

A whole chapter is devoted to the intelligent design movement of scientists, Christian and unbelievers, who have concluded, from the overwhelming evidence, that creation must have a designer.

This fact sits deep in the heart of man who always assumes that cars, wrist watches, smart phones and bandwidth are all designed by someone. Yet, evolutionists, with a straight face, teach our children that millions of years of accidents created such wonders as their mother, puppies, whales and sunshine.

With resources such as The Evolution Handbook, you can easily counter the lies that Satan is feeding you and your kids at every turn.

Younger and younger children are encountering the question of homosexuality. As they are able, tracts like, Sin City, Home Alone, Uninvited and Doom Town can be used to guide them to the truth. We also need to salt these truths widely into our communities to strengthen those who really want to stand up for righteousness.

Chick Publications, Chick Publications 35 Comments [11/11/2014 7:45:27 AM]
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Quote# 69365

[On whether Barack Obama may be an atheist]

Yeah, I’d hope for agnostic. Atheistic leaders dont have the best track record… Stalin, Mao, Hoxsa, Cruschev, Castro… I guess it has something to do with the whole denial of the basis for the universal and inalienable human value, dignity, and rights. Easier to trample all over people when you see them as the “unfit” rather than image bearers.

[“Easier to trample all over people when you see them as the “unfit” rather than image bearers.”
I think you are confusing atheist, with social Darwinist.]

so an atheist can pick and choose when evolution is involved? arent we an evolved species? wouldnt we have fit/unfit species? isnt it in the best interest of the species to eliminate the unfit from the breed? so evolution is the controlling factor of life on earth… except when its not…?

Tyler V, Rationalists's Blog 46 Comments [1/5/2010 1:12:12 PM]
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Quote# 136985

Wow so you think child porn shouldn't be illegal? They contribute to kids suffering

It shouldn’t be illegal and it actually doesn’t, anyway most ‘child porn’ is made by teenagers with camera phones who then get put in prison and put on the sex offender registry for taking nude selfies and sending them to each other. The biggest victims of child porn being illegal are the children themselves.

Look, I’ve already made my position clear on this many times, please come up with something new to be anonymously sanctimoniously wrong at me about

sadoeconomics, tumblr 6 Comments [3/1/2018 12:56:25 PM]
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Quote# 136965

In 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that vaccinations are "unavoidably unsafe".

No medical intervention that is "unavoidably unsafe" should be mandatory.

No medical procedure that does not have the "informed consent" of the patient should ever, be thrust on anyone.

Vaccinations are "unavoidably unsafe" which as a parent my first duty is above all else, "first do no harm" and to thoroughly understand the toxic ingredients in vaccinations as part of the "informed consent" process before agreeing to this invasive medical procedure.

Doctors may have thrown "first do no harm" under the bus, parents cannot afford to.

Educate before you vaccinate.

#unavoidably unsafe #informed consent #vaccination #parenting #Hippocratic Oath

sabelmouse, Tumblr 13 Comments [3/1/2018 12:50:00 PM]
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Quote# 136986

Can you give a good reason why you believe child pornography ahouldnt be illegal? Because to me it sounds like youre justifying child rape in the name of "anti-censorship"

I’m not doing that at all, and you shouldn’t put scare quotes on anti-censorship.

First, let’s go over a few incidents. Recently, I heard about an acquaintance of mine whose 16-year-old son’s 17-year-old girlfriend attempted to send him a topless selfie but instead accidentally texted it to her neighbor, an old lady who freaked out and called the police. And the first reaction of the police was to begin the process of indicting ALL THREE OF THEM for possession of child pornography and adding them to the sex offender registry for life - and it’s only because the girl’s dad was a golfing buddy of the chief of police that it ended with all of their cell phones being confiscated and wiped instead. Does this sound like a reasonable way of dealing with this situation? Were all of them child rapists? How much prison time should you get for the crime of receiving an unsolicited JPEG file exactly?

Let’s consider also the Playpen incident last year, which was what prompted that post you’re probably responding to, in which the FBI ran a sting operation that disseminated a massive amount of child pornography through the dark web, which was so badly mishandled that very few people they caught downloading real hardcore child rape pornography can be prosecuted. The US federal government is itself unquestionably the biggest distributor of child pornography there is. This is the same federal government that ran COINTELPRO, MKULTRA, the Tuskegee syphilis experiments, etc. And they are now headed by Donald Trump, who is one of several political figures who went to Jeffrey Epstein’s private island before Epstein was convicted of trafficking in underage prostitutes. Donald Trump of the Republican Party, which recently had Dennis Hastert as the Speaker of the House, who has since been convicted of raping an underage boy. And let’s not even get into all the shit the Democrats have been caught doing. Are these the people you trust to fairly enforce these laws? Do you think it would be difficult for any three-letter agency to put child pornography on your computer without your knowledge if they wanted to, so they could prosecute anyone they wanted and claim they were secretly a pedophile, to destroy their reputation? Is that a power you are comfortable with Donald Trump and the deep state having? They haven’t been willing to legally define ‘pornography,’ even. Having laws forbidding certain combinations of ones and zeroes hands those people a blank check to destroy whomever they wish.

Let’s go back to what prompted my personal interest in this whole debate, which was the relationship I had with an older woman when I was 16 - when I had a job, I was going to college, I was allowed to drive a multi-ton motor vehicle, I was talking to a recruiter about joining the Marine Corps, etc. but had no access to many other legal rights arbitrarily withheld from people under 18. If she had sent me racy photos of herself or vice versa, well, she might still be in prison today. As it was, we carefully avoided putting her at risk for two very long years until I was 18, at which point we had a rather normal romantic adult relationship for several years that ended amicably, that I look back on fondly today. As the person who was supposedly protected here by being forcibly kept apart from the person I loved, how do you think I feel about the state’s interference in our relationship now? If you guessed ‘immensely resentful even after all these years,’ you are correct. Would it have been child rape on her part if I had sent her a picture of my naked body unprompted? Does it make any sense that I could pledge to sign several years of my life over to the military at that age but I couldn’t send someone a picture of myself? Do you get how that experience molded my opinion on the subject and made me willing to speak out on the subject even if it meant people would call me a pedophile?

One of the most famous home movies in history is the Zapruder film of the Kennedy assassination. We’ve all seen it, right? But it’s photographic evidence of a crime. Shouldn’t we all be charged with condoning the murder of the president for watching that footage, by your logic? Surely you agree that murder is worse than rape. Shouldn’t possessing media of a person being killed be illegal, if possessing media of a person being raped should be? And if animated or drawn child pornography is illegal, shouldn’t possessing any movie or video game in which a person is shown being killed be grounds for imprisonment as well? The logic that you folks use has implications far beyond this subject, but you never really pursue those implications (and you shouldn’t, because they’re insane).

My point is, that’s because you’re fabricating unsound legal principles here to support the existence of this unjust, unconstitutional law (probably because anyone who questions it gets accused of being a pedophile, and you don’t want to wind up with clueless anons accusing you of justifying child rape, for example), instead of coming up with law based on sound legal principles. In any other context, anyone would tell you that possessing a picture or video of a crime is not the same thing as committing the crime yourself and the harm was entirely in the original crime, not just watching it. Are you justifying robbing convenience stores by saying it shouldn’t be illegal to watch America’s Dumbest Criminals? And if we took that principle to extremes it’d suppress important political speech - for example, after Vietnam the American media was pressured by the military to stop showing images of US soldiers in body bags, and as a consequence we’re more emotionally isolated from the wars currently being waged and information about the circumstances of the deaths of soldiers has been kept from the public ‘out of respect.’ Laws against pornography were used not so long ago to suppress information about birth control and sex education. It’s not unimaginable that there’s something important we’re not being allowed to know about, or that we’re all afraid to discuss, because it’s been declared child pornography. Censorship is absolutely something you should be afraid of in any form, and even well-meaning censorship can inadvertently suppress the truth. A free society, especially a democracy, depends on open access to information to function and I’m skeptical of anything that nibbles at that around the edges, even for the noblest of causes. These things always have chilling effects on expression far beyond their official limits as well. If some JPEGs can be illegal it requires all this machinery of surveillance and enforcement that can be just as easily used to suppress other things, and if we don’t trust the state, which we shouldn’t, we shouldn’t be comfortable with that machinery of censorship existing at all. We can’t trust them to stay within their mission - look at all the NSA personnel spying on their girlfriends instead of terrorists. Look at how the state has far outgrown its constitutional bounds. Stopping a few fucked up people from getting access to their preferred masturbation material is not worth having to give Leviathan access to all of our digital communications.

I am an anarchist. I discuss radical libertarian politics here. That’s why I’m against this law that’s been abused so much, the enforcement of which has been a massive travesty of justice for decades. Not because I’m ‘trying to justify child rape.’ My ideology is rooted in the nonaggression principle, which rape obviously violates. Do you think I should take the position of ‘we need to remove all power from the government except the power to prosecute people for child pornography?’ There’s no exception here to my general critique of the state. And what do you think would happen to child rapists in Ancapistan, anyway? ‘Hunted for sport’ is my guess. A convicted child rapist would probably not be able to retain the protection of a DRO (I’ve conjectured for a long time that that might be the one thing all of them would refuse to deal with) and they’d have the status of a medieval outlaw, they’d have no legal protections - likely a de facto death sentence with all the people who’d be lining up to kill them. Meanwhile, the state plays catch and release with child rapists - go check the sex offender map and see how many live in your community right now, I dare you.

Anyway, Anon, you are the unwitting pawn of someone who has started a harassment campaign against me, who has accused me of all kinds of other ridiculous vile shit in the past few days as well, and sent messages encouraging me to commit suicide. They dug up a post from nearly two years ago and reposted it outside of the context of the ongoing debate we had had, triggered by the revelation that the FBI had disseminated a massive amount of child pornography on the deep web. I had explained all of this back then in even greater detail, but then someone sent me an anon asking me about banning violent porn and I made the mistake of mentioning my position again without that context, so it could be misinterpreted by people unfamiliar with my ideas.

So yeah, I don’t condone raping children, I’m not a psychopath, I just really don’t trust the government, in large part because there are so many actual child rapists at the highest levels of government, and I think we can do better than the current system. I hope this clarifies my thinking for you.

sadoeconomics, tumblr 5 Comments [3/2/2018 11:37:07 AM]
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