Quote# 103727

1) That a "nation" can be legitimately and realistically formed from the top, down, of such disparate peoples representing radically different cultures, histories, traditions, and religions." We originally had thirteen sovereign nations who voluntarily joined in a confederacy for mutual benefit (state = nation), without sacrificing that ultimate sovereignty. That ended in 1865, when we effectively became an empire for the benefit of the politically connected corporacrats.

2) That some theft is justified under God if it is accomplished via taxation and zoning laws and ordinances, eminent domain, etc., by people democratically elected wearing suits and/or black judicial robes.

3) "'Progress'" is always good, and justifies the confiscation of private property for 'the public good'." See Item #2. Also, we fail to consider a fuller meaning of progress, particularly as God sees it, even as a supposedly Christian nation!

4) Related to Items 2 and 3, "The 'bottom line' is the ultimate good, i.e. financial profits." It is the only aspect of economy we recognize.

5) " America has always championed a free market." Never mind the Fed, corporate welfare at all levels of government (Think! Did you and your local government offer tax breaks to companies and corporations to set up shop in your town or county?). Never mind the tariffs back in the 19th c. and their descendants, the financial bail-outs we saw in 2008-9! We-the-people are more of a colony for the profit of the elites now, than we ever were under King George and Parliament!

6) "Democrats are evil, while, if the Republican Party would just get back to its roots and stop with the RINOs, we'd be better off!" Yes, the Democrat Party gave itself over to evil when it abandoned itself to the left forty or fifty years ago, but the GOP was born as a means to enrich the corporacratic interests of the day (the 1850s). The party's apparatus, many in its grassroots base notwithstanding, is still all about the maintenance of power and profits through government, having successfully redefined "conservatism" to fit into this paradigm. It'll mouth seemingly Constitutional and Jeffersonian ideas, but its "constitutionalism" is hardly better than the Democrat Party's leftist disregard for the original intent and founding principles.

7) Ceding our responsibilities to the government is okay (e.g. education, welfare, social security, health care, etc.). But YOUR socialism (i.e. entitlement) is evil, while MINE is fine! We've all tolerated our own hypocrisy in this area for too long, folks!

And, again, 54 million babies MURDERED! Look, those barbarians over in Iraq who murder by beheading, etc. deserve bullets to the brain! However, we do it in such a sanitized way, dressed in, again, legislators' and judges' suits and black robes, mouthing legalisms, etc., while we kill our own children; do you and I think God is any less sickened at this? Further, who are we to extend our ideas of "good" to other nations via our military and neocon foreign relations?

I hope and pray for "America's" fall, the faster the better! As far as I am concerned, what we have now is no longer America anyway! That republic was dealt a mortal blow long ago and has been slowly dying since then!

We're done! To those of us who remain, let us repent and seek to reform ourselves under God's hand into something that is honouring to Him once again!

Daithi_Dubh, WND 21 Comments [9/27/2014 6:34:29 AM]
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Quote# 5775

any way the sherad desrer is the bigs one if the wolrd was 4.6 billon years old the why isnt there a bigger one some were, they have dated the desrt to be about 4300 years old by the way it grows about 4 miles every year,. i have a throy i belive that god made the earth about 6000 years ago and there was a flood about 4400 years ago. so the biges desrt wold have to be less than 4400 years old. gess what it is [winking smiley]

godskidathhs777, The Seven Project Discussion Forums 5 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5803

so if what you are saying is that the first life organisms did not require oxygen at the time but later evolved to incorperate oxygen, then how could evoultuon at the cellular level have occured keeping the organism alive? what i am trying to say is...during evolution the organism would die during the information change in cells as they switch 'jobs'

JesusChristRep, BlizzForums 3 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 125060

Normies trivialize my incelness, they trivialize my depression, and they trivialize my misophonia


why cant i have one thing thats special about me, without you normie fucks stealing my disorders

im so fucking angry

ijustwantsomefriendz ("females deserve the rope"), /r/incels 28 Comments [3/2/2017 12:34:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 5795

According to Darwin in his books. He clearly states that women are more ape like, and less evolved then men. Dont believe me? Read His theorys, and books again. It what he printed... Just another reason why I dont believe in evolution.

Lonnie, Christian Forums 29 Comments [1/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 125257

in response to this post

The issue I have with this post is that for the purposes of who it’s appropriate for you to be dating you’re 30, not 17 ,always. To go ‘oooooh which is the age you should be judging the morality of my relationships by 30 or 17 it’s impossible to say!’ you’re implicitly telling people that there’s some ambiguity as to whether having headmates who are minors as an adult means your relationships should be judged as a minor’s relationships. There is not. This is the main point of this reblog and tbh it’s something you need to speak on. Arguing for age gaps between adults being okay shouldn’t be done in ways that could be used to justify child abuse, and that’s a responsibility you take on when you speak on the issue.

We have spoken on it. Repeatedly. And… no, you’re dangerously leaving out an important nuance there: A system member who is a minor, even in an adult body, is still a fucking minor and so probably should not “have their relationships judged as an adult” - they shouldn’t be entering into adult relationships at all. Yes, this leaves an awkward spot where there’s basically no ethical way for some system members to date at all. Again, we’ve spoken publicly on this very issue before, including in direct response to this post.

.You’re not allowed to ignore age completely whether you’re a singlet or not. The age of your body absolutely determines, at least, the minimum age of the people it is ethical for you to date and I don’t know why you continually dance around whether or not you agree with that because you have made it unclear.

.”mental age” is measured in a lot of different ways by a lot of different people, unlike chronological age which is objective and it’s often used to tell disabled people what they can and cannot do so I think it’s up to her to decide the age of the people she is comfortable dating, depending on what exactly she is using the very ambiguous term “mental age” to convey, and her chronological age.

.It’s actually pretty dangerous to a wide variety of people to respond to people saying “23 year olds and 30 year olds shouldn’t date” with but ‘I’m a system and therefore using age as a measure of the morality of a relationship is flawed.’ Like were the “antis” you’re discussing even talking about a relationship that involved systems in any way?

.Also “think carefully about your answer” look it’s so unsettling how you’re conducting this conversation like SEE IF YOU CAN SOLVE THIS PUZZLE I”VE CONCOCTED like people are trying to talk to you about how something you said had some really uncomfortable implications and you should at least try to treat our concerns in a way that’s honest and self-critical and not be trying to like get us to say something wrong so you “win”that’s not how this works.

What SM was arguing in the OP - what we have argued consistently - is that chronological age does not equal narrative age for multiples. SM split in a trauma event 17 years ago. So yes, it is 17 years old. But believe it or not, we aren’t born quite like you. It didn’t need to learn to walk and talk and use a toilet again. It came into existence as a teenager, in a teenage body. It continued to age in real time, so despite having existed for 17 years, it has a narrative age in the mid-30s.
This information has already been explicitly provided to you.
So… your argument is that a system member with a narrative age in the mid-30s, with a body in the mid-30s, is the victim of a gross predator… because she’s in a consensual relationship with someone younger. Because you are utterly fixated on dictating to multiples instead of listening to us about our experience and how your rules get really fucked up and ableist when you apply them to us unilaterally.
What’s even more fucked up is that you’re making this argument after repeatedly arguing that a system member with a narrative age of fourteen should be allowed to date adults because they happen to be in an older body.
Like. Do you have any idea how many different levels of fucked up you’re being here?
Re: mental age: If you know that, then maybe you know better than to apply it to other DD people without their consent? No? What a surprise, consideration for other people’s boundaries and differing situations is not your strong suit.

You seriously could have just said that you’re 30 and your girlfriend is 23 and it’s a healthy relationship without doing all this bullshit
.‘checkmate people who disapprove of relationships between 30 year olds and 23 year olds, I’m also 17’ is an inherently dangerous sentiment, deflecting criticism of your relationship based on the age of your body by bringing up your chronological age of your alter absolutely cosigns some pedophiles’ justifications

2. Well, there’s the aspect that we’ve brought up repeatedly and you literally just acknowledged: Basing your decisions solely on the age of the body opens up two loopholes for the abuse of children.

I have never seen someone so determined to allow for the abuse of children in my life.

2.5. They weren’t just calling it “inherently predatory,” they were calling it “pedophilic.” That is the absurdity I was responding to. There is no, repeat no, way for a relationship between two adults to be pedophilic.

3. I could’ve done a lot of things. I chose to write a quick snarky post to vent some of my frustration. This is just tone-policing a mentally ill woman for not responding to ableism politely enough for you. Fuck off.

4. “Your expressed policies paint me as simultaneously predator and victim of the same person, this is absurd” is not an inherently dangerous statement. I wasn’t deflecting criticism of my relationship - I was responding to criticism of a fictional relationship and the fact that it leaves zero room for me to exist. And I wasn’t bringing up the age of a system mate. I was talking about myself. I am an adult who happens to have existed for 17 years. This is a thing that happens, and maybe if you could stop being an ableist fuck for like half a second you’d be able to understand that.

This is not cosigning anybody’s justification for the abuse of children. This is saying “Your rules have a blatant and ugly failure case; better rules are needed.” I have, repeatedly, offered better rules which - unlike yours - do not simultaneously paint someone as predator and victim or allow for the exploitation of children.

Seriously. I said “Hey, there’s a problem with your policies, here’s a policy that better protects children.” And you are trying to pretend I am cheerleading for child molesters, like the ones who fucking raped us, because I did so a bit snarkily (after already having been the target of multiple smear campaigns by antis for daring to actually listen to experts and evidence).

No part of this is honest disagreement. You are doing exactly what I have always objected to in the Anti Squad - reaching as hard as you fucking can for any excuse to portray anybody who disagrees with you as a supporter of child molesters. You are actively harming CSA survivors and mentally ill people and allowing child molesters to go unchallenged, and that is beyond disgusting. Get the fuck off our post with that shit.

wetwareproblem, tumblr 15 Comments [3/9/2017 3:22:12 PM]
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Quote# 106309

Ayn Rand once wrote, “Show me the woman [a man] sleeps with and I will tell you his valuation of himself.” If this applies to American men in general, our nation is rocketing towards Gomorrah like a fat kid on a water slide. No less than an authority than the New York Times has declared that booty is in, with pop singers and movie stars like Iggy Azalea and Beyonce showing off their asses and music videos for songs like “Booty” providing a butt buffet for America’s simpletons.

This is not a good thing.

I don’t mean to trample on anyone’s preferences, but America’s increasing ass addiction is further evidence of our decline as a society. Not only is booty worship associated with primitive, backwards cultures, but America’s burgeoning butt cult is yet another expression of female narcissism. By cheering on the likes of Meghan Trainor and other ambassadors of ass, you are helping perpetuate the degradation of women into fat, self-centered sluts.

Ass, Class And Status

It’s universally accepted that a man’s preferences in female beauty are indicative of his class and attitude. Historically, ass fixations were considered trashy, because butts signify the primal and hearken back to our animal origins. Boobs were associated with working-class men (think the original Playboy), while legs were the preference of the upper classes because they signified good breeding (since height is an indicator of good nutrition and genes).

This was confirmed by a recent Pornhub study analyzing the types of search strings their sites get. The map below displays whether boob or butt searches are more popular in certain countries:

As you can see, asses are preferred in Africa, South America, and the Middle East, regions known for their crushing poverty and corrupt governments. The civilized, wealthy nations of the world, from Europe to Asia, prefer boobs. Egypt and Argentina, historically the most advanced countries on their respective continents, also prefer boobs. The U.S. is the only first world nation in the Butt column, and that’s primarily because of our large black and Latino populations.

Looking at a state-by-state breakdown, we see the exact same pattern. The states where boobs reign are the whitest ones, as well as the ones with the highest quality of life, the least corrupt governments, and the lowest crime rates. Vote Ass if you enjoy paying 50 percent of your taxes to a government that can’t even pave the roads or protect you from criminals, while your city devolves into a third world cesspool.

Those Phat Asses Aren’t For You

So maybe you think my civilizational explanation is cracked out, or you just don’t care about the fate of the U.S. But even if that’s the case, there’s still a very good reason to oppose the MSM’s booty crusade: it’s feeding the self-absorption of young women.

The reason why asses are considered low-class is because developing a big ass requires less discipline then any other female beauty standard. The butt is the only part of a woman’s anatomy that improves when she gains weight. Contrary to what fat girls think, getting obese doesn’t make for better boobs, because a fatty’s tits are veiny, distended, and saggy. Absolutely no effort is required for a girl to get a big ass; perfect for a nation in which the majority of women are turning into cellulite-ridden hambeasts.

This is the most troubling aspect of America’s butt cult: virtually all the ass anthems being pushed by the media are paeans of self-love. Take the video for Meghan Trainor’s “All About That Bass” as an example:

Trainor is a fat white girl rapping about how she’s fine just the way she is, how beauty standards that expect her to cut down on the bon-bons are oppressive, and denigrating women who have “stick figure,” “Barbie doll” physiques. The message to girls is clear: don’t work on yourself, don’t take care of your body, and any man repulsed by your undulating stomach flab and toilet paper-infested asscrack is a meanie misogynist.

The same attitude is present in last year’s other major butt worship song, Jennifer Lopez’s “Booty.” When that video first came out, I was talking about it with some friends and one commented on how anhedonic and unsexy it was. I told him that “Booty” wasn’t supposed to be sexy. J.Lo and Iggy Azalea aren’t flaunting their butts because they want to look hot for men, they’re doing it out of narcissism: “You better worship my big booty, or else!”

Contrast these music videos to Sir Mix-a-Lot’s “Baby Got Back,” which ass-lovers point to as an example of how butts have gone mainstream. “Baby Got Back” is sexy and appealing because it was sung from a man’s perspective, about what men liked. It wasn’t even representative of black America’s tastes, because the majority of attractive black women didn’t emphasize their butts, even going all the way back to the sixties (NSFW link).

The current crop of ass anthems are by women, about women, and are about shaming men for not giving these women the deference they think they deserve. What you prefer as a man is irrelevant: big booty is the only item on the menu, and if you don’t like it, you can starve for all they care.

Planet Of The Asses

It’s fine to prefer booty, but the left never stops at tolerance. Gay rights were originally sold to the public with the “tolerance” canard, but in the year 2015, Christian bakers are getting sued left and right for refusing to make gay wedding cakes. Eventually, if you don’t worship the flabby ass of every narwhal lumbering down the street, you’ll be treated like you’re personally jamming your finger down the throat of every bulimic in America.

Again, if you like asses, there’s no problem with that. But the booty cult being pushed by the mainstream media isn’t the product of what men want, it’s yet another way to bolster the already inflated egos of women. Iggy Azalea, Meghan Trainor and their ilk are horsewomen of the female narcissism apocalypse, slipping poison in the ears of this nation’s already slovenly, slutty, selfish girls.

Matt Forney, Return of Kings 63 Comments [2/11/2015 4:27:26 AM]
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Quote# 125159

“Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump. It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Donald, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.”

Omarosa Manigault, The Huffington Post 67 Comments [3/6/2017 9:02:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 124671

"Have you been paying attention to the news?!?! "Grab her by the pussy" "She was married". Just one of many lewd things...how would you react if Trump moved on Your wife like that?!"

Mike Elliott (aka Michael Glatze), Facebook 4 Comments [2/19/2017 6:57:26 PM]
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Quote# 125206


(((Weekend Past Blast Cartoon))) Obama Wiretapping Trump’s phone during the 2016 election is looking very much like Orwellian 1984, or more like O-wellian. Political Cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2015

A.F. Branco, Comically Incorrect 23 Comments [3/8/2017 2:08:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125263

Why Cant Women Admit that 99% of them are Attracted to only One Man???

Tall, Muscular, Handsome........................99 % of them want this. If Incels looked like this 99% of women wud want them.......

Incels looks restrict them to a very small percentage of women if any at all and the women may reside half way around the world.

Whilst most women are attractive to most men. Even fat ugly women have a harem of men after them even decent looking men.......

Which Sadistic God created this Unfair Sexual Marketplace and why Cant women admit the truth??????

jackville07, /r/incels 24 Comments [3/9/2017 6:04:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 80643

Women love education; it's the actual application they don't particularly like. Whereas the first thought of a woman who enjoys the idea of painting is to take an art appreciation class, a similarly interested man is more likely to just pick up a paintbrush and paint something – usually a naked woman.

Between 1988 and 2004, Title IX caused the elimination of 239 NCAA Division One men's teams and the addition of 682 women's teams. Those 239 teams represented about 8.3 percent of the total, and the rate of elimination is increasing because, as the proportion of men attending universities continues to fall, more universities will fall afoul of the Title IX proportionality requirement and be forced to cut more men's teams to stay in compliance with the congressionally dictated ratio. Now, what realistically offers a greater threat to science: a lack of public funding for what has proven to be the red herring of embryonic stem-cell research, or a politically driven 10 percent reduction of the male scientific community in the next 15 years, along with the enforced employment of three times that many female "scientists"?

Of course, this will sound to equalitarians and their sympathizers like nothing more than male whining, but it's nothing of the sort. Because they are the intellectual driving force of humanity, men will be fine. They will simply continue to do what they have always done and pursue the same challenges they have always pursued, focused on the realities of success rather than its superficial attributes. It is the institutions they are exiting, voluntarily and involuntarily, that will be destroyed instead. It is written that "women ruin everything"; having destroyed the liberal arts, the classics and the pseudo-sciences, it is now abundantly clear that the more rigorous sciences are next on the equalitarians' destructive agenda. And so, in the not-too-distant future, two plus two will finally be determined to equal five if a women feels that it should, or at least it will as long as she happens to feel that way.

Vox Day, World Net Daily 116 Comments [4/15/2011 3:31:32 AM]
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Quote# 44272

Just think what it will be like after the Rapture when all the caring folks are gone. It is going to be a nasty place. [...]

Camelknees33, RR 53 Comments [8/5/2008 3:49:13 PM]
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Quote# 109416

HRC Targets Little Kids with Homosexual Indoctrination

It's bad enough that radical homosexualists are targeting Christian businesses, state laws protecting marriage and other "grown up" institutions, but what's worse is that this evil movement has in its twisted cross-hairs your little children in public schools, children who are too young to be introduced to sex lessons, much less the perverse, abominable concept of homosexual behavior.


Major corporations are donating massive amounts of money to the despicable HRC and its aggressive efforts to warp the minds of our nation's children, as well as spread the tyrannical homosexualist program all across America. [...] To see corporate America paying tribute to the diabolical homosexualist movement is gut-wrenching. I wonder how many leaders of these companies understand that HRC perverts are targeting little kids with their evil lies that bury the truth about the dangerous, immoral homosexual lifestyle. These people are working like devils to commandeer the minds of young children in the United States, to infuse support and a positive view of homosexual behavior, to regard it as "normal." That's what this public school program of the HRC is all about, to capture the affinity of the next generation in order to squash moral objection to the infamous crime against nature.


We must remember that the very freedoms of American citizens are targets of the radical homosexualists, and specifically, Christianity and its free expression. As I have said before, the outlawing of Christianity is one of the chief goals of this movement, because Christians are among the very few who are willing to stand in moral opposition to the wicked agenda of the homosexualists. Because of that pesky Constitution, they can't yet come right out and outlaw the following of Jesus in the public square, so they are working to accomplish the same thing by using homosexual activists as tools to push for "non-discrimination" laws and to abolish the meaning of marriage. When they destroy marriage, it will ultimately become illegal to refuse to accommodate the grotesque homosexual parody of marriage in any way. Between that and "non-discrmination" laws that will make it illegal to, say, take a pass on hiring a man who insists on dressing like a woman, they will effectively outlaw any act of conscientious objection to all aspects of in-your-face sexual perversion. There goes your freedom of conscience and your freedom to live your Christianity openly.

These are serious dangers to our free Republic, and while we must resist this hell-born movement, we must also do what we can to shield our children in the public schools from the diabolical indoctrination of these agents of darkness. We can also let the corporate dupes who fund the devilry of the HRC know what we think of their complicity in pumping homosexualist poison into the minds and hearts of our nation's kids.

Gina Miller, Barb Wire 21 Comments [6/8/2015 3:26:53 AM]
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Quote# 5752

following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020! Will Americans continue to sleep through this as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?

Carol, FirstCoastNews Talk Back! 12 Comments [12/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 125311

Question : The Veggie Tales are tremendously popular with our grandkids. My husband thinks that all animation, whether it is veggies or something else, is not good. What is your opinion? Is it right to allow non-humans to talk?

Answer:Berit's impression, which is not a researched answer: I have only watched the Veggie Tales a few times, but I remember two concerns. The first one has to do with the talking plants. Today's emphasis on planetary oneness and interconnectedness promotes the pantheistic idea that humans, animals, and plants all equal members of one global bio-family. Giving human characteristics to plants and animals encourages children to accept this unbiblical notion as more normal and compassionate than God’s ways.

Second, the "cool" language of some of the characters seemed rude and disrespectful. Since children tend to enjoy these assertive attitudes and rude messages, they are likely to remember and imitate them. I don't remember the episodes well enough to comment on anything else.

The following letters offer a broader perspective and some positive points. I continue to have reservations. Remember, lessons in good character may be useful, but if these lessons are presented in a context or setting that conflicts with the Biblical world view, they can confuse a child's understanding of both of reality and of Scriptures. This danger may be more serious than the benefit from the repeated reminders of a good habit. However, I can't validate my concerns until I find time to buy and watch a few more of the Veggie Tales videos.

Berit Kjos, Crossroad Ministries 19 Comments [3/11/2017 2:26:46 PM]
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Quote# 5755

I'm askin if you have heard of this specific theory, because its really not too far fetched

-FAITH ALONE-, Internet Infidels 5 Comments [12/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 40382

Bush's problem is that he is too respectful of the Constitution.

His predecessors have used Executive Orders to really mess things up. Taking coal deposits out of development and production, for example.

Bush could have, on day two, ordered drilling for oil and gas.

And reveresed the previous executive orders banning coal.

And ordered surplus military bases used for refinery locations.

And issued additional operating licenses for new nuclear electric generating facilities.

AND mandated that all railroads switch to electric power instead of using diesel power.

He could have done those things.

Instead he allowed the Liberal Democrats and Liberal Republicans to tie up the economy in bureaucratic knots.

One of the Ten Commandments forbids stealing and another of the Ten Commandments forbids coveting (envy). Bush allowed the Liberals to use legal manipulations to steal from the people and to get away with envy of people who are productive and produce the things that we all need for our daily existence.

Al Masetti, Catholic Answers Forums 41 Comments [6/4/2008 12:06:57 PM]
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Quote# 5763

[To a professing Wiccan objecting to that nonsense]The very fact that you refer to yourself as a witch and then tell me that halloween is your most important day is reason enough to not celebrate it. Witchcraft is evil, since halloween is also your most important religious day, halloween is also evil. Thank you but I will spend that time with other Christians while witches are out trying to jumpstart their brooms.

ByGrace, Christian Forums 11 Comments [12/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5769

We did not start the war in Iraqu; the Muslim nations started the war with their attack on 9/11 in New York City.

Ray Berrian, BaptistBoard 19 Comments [12/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 5991

That's okay, RufusAtticus - if I'm wrong in Jesus Christ then I wish to remain that way. You do remember Pascal's Wager, I presume? Tell you what, a hundred years from now - when it will surely be over for the two of us - let's compare notes on this ... is it a 'date'?

Jorge, Internet Infidels 6 Comments [2/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 125335

Donald Trump, Facebook 22 Comments [3/12/2017 2:23:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125317

Dominionist Lou Engle, taking part in multi-day Ohio gathering of the Religious Right group POTUS Shield called on Friday for God to “sweep away” Supreme Court justices and federal judges who would uphold Roe v. Wade, suggesting that God could do so by converting them or killing them.

POTUS Shield is an operation launched by self-proclaimed apostles and prophets, many affiliated with the New Apostolic Reformation, to pray for the Trump administration. The group is holding a multi-day prayer rally at Frank Amedia’s Touch Heaven Ministries Church in Canfield, Ohio, this week. Amedia was a prominent supporter of Donald Trump, who campaigned at a worship event alongside Amedia, and for a time served as the Trump campaign’s volunteer “liaison of Christian policy.” On Friday morning, Lou Engle took the microphone and began to talk about abortion and the federal courts.

Engle said that during a recent five-day fast, he had a dream about women gathering to hear the book of Esther taught. Someone in the dream said that there are two words in the book of Esther that mean “Nazgul,” which Engle stated is the name of “the Witch King” of the ringwraiths in the Lord of the Rings, the “most powerful being of darkness and death” who could be killed by no man, but who is defeated by the King’s daughter as she proclaimed, “I am no man.” Engle said the dream means that God is raising up an Esther movement of conservative women. “We decree it,” shouted Engle. “The voice of Esther is coming to take out the Nazgul, the principalities of witchcraft and death that demand bloodshed for the fueling of the agenda of darkness.”

“God sweep away the judges,” Engle prayed. “Sweep away the Nazgul, the Haman spirit of death. We decree, God, the sweeping of the Supreme Court.”

As we noted earlier this week, Engle called for a three-day Esther Fast to protect Trump from witchcraft; he said women around the world are praying for the reversal of Roe v. Wade and asking God, “pull down these Hamans, remove ‘em, either—” and there he stopped mid-sentence to make a point to those who might be squeamish about his rhetoric:

"I tell you, the church can’t be humanistic right now. I feel this in my spirit. We’re so concerned about these Hamans [the evil advisor to the king in the biblical book of Esther] that we’re not concerned about the millions of babies! I say that we believe that Donald Trump, President Trump, is a Jehu as well as a Cyrus. And I’ve been praying, ‘remove the house of Ahab.’"

In the Bible, God used Jehu to enact his judgment on the sinful house of Ahab, which Jehu accomplished by overseeing the slaughter of Ahab’s family, supporters, and priests. “We need to begin to pray to sweep away the House of Ahab,” Engle said.

“We declare that you are the God of the reversal of Haman’s decrees,” he said. “We declare the reversal of the decree of ’73, Roe v Wade … We declare the reversal of Roe v. Wade. The powers of Nazgul, witchcraft and death are being reversed now over this nation.”

Engle also referred to “The Last of the Giants,” a 1991 book by George Otis, Jr., which describes the history of that moment in terms of spiritual warfare between the church and demonic powers. Engle marveled that when God wanted to “shift and bring down” communism, “one Politboro member after another at that time just simply died…until God got his man Gorbachev.” Engle said another person had dreamed about “The Last of the Giants” and that God and told him, “You’ve been asking for three but I want you to ask for five” judges. “We said ‘Lord, sweep it away.’ Somehow it’s gotta be swept away, by a Sotomayor encounter, or they’re just gonna d—.”

It turns out that both Amedia and Engle have been praying specifically for Justice Sonia Sotomayor to have “an encounter with the living God” so “that she would see things from the mind of Christ, no longer from darkness, but from light, and that she would judge from light.” Engle, who said (wrongly) that Sotomayor’s name means “greater salvation,” prayed that God would “invade her with a dream” and return her to her Catholic roots. “Give us that soul, Lord,” he prayed.

At one point Engle said, “no one wants anybody to die” and that he prays that they get converted, but that when God starts to work he raises up kings and brings them down. Said Amedia, “He can haunt them in the middle of the night.” Amedia talked about his own dream, in which a broom went up one side of the Supreme Court and down the other, but this was not just a house-cleaning broom, but a broom “that brings destruction.”

“The Lord showed me the entire federal court system was getting shook and cleaned,” said Amedia, praising legislation designed to break up the 9th circuit–which he called a “fruitcake court”—and create a new circuit court whose judges Trump would get to appoint.

Amedia said there are 110 federal court vacancies on the federal courts, enough, Engle said, to create “the possibility of shifting the justice system for years.”

Herman Martir, who spoke earlier about his membership on an Asian American advisory panel for Trump, took over to lead prayer for God to “raise up righteous, godly judges.” Said Martir, “We’re legislating in the heavenlies.”

Engle ended the court session with a flourish:

"I want to stand with authority to declare the shifting of these judges, and the shifting of the federal judges of America. We declare it in the name of Jesus. We stand before the courtroom of heaven, presiding God in Canfield on earth, and around the throne in heaven. We stretch forth your rod and rule in the midst of your enemies. We decree a massive shift over the federal courts and the Supreme Court, in the name of Jesus, from the Supreme Court of heaven."

A heads up for you Trump resisters: It’s not just judges who Engle thinks are asking for God’s judgment. Engle had a warning for “those who are funding anarchy.” God is slow to anger, Engle said, but when His time comes, He will “seize the initiative.”

Lou Engle, Right Wing Watch 17 Comments [3/11/2017 2:34:36 PM]
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Many Witches do agree that evil spirits exist. But what they do not acknowledge is that Satan is alive and well. They believe that he is just a creation of the church and has no bearing or influence on their lives. Therefore, if you don't believe in something it does not exist. Some Witches do believe in the God of the bible and Jesus. But they believe that Jesus was just a good teacher and use parts of the bible to justify what they believe. They call themselves Christian witches or born again Pagans! Like many so-called Christian denominations, they twist and distort the word to fit what they want to believe. However, Gods word says that Satan does in fact exist and that he is the deceiver of the world. Yes there is a spirit world but it is not to be contacted. Calling on the spirit world will only bring up demons. There are no good spirits and they do not inhabit the elements. There are no gods or goddesses. There is a horned god and his name is not Pan. It is Lucifer. Aka Satan!

Jon Watkins, Exposing Satanism 51 Comments [12/5/2010 10:36:00 AM]
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People always trip me out with these!

I was going through my weekly 'hate mail' and came across this one here. It stood out to me because this person went out of their way to send a personal email.

Commenting on my page is a privilege - not a right. I don't have to entertain someone else's bull or negative opinions about what I do - and I won't.

There's no Bible verse you can point me to that tells me 'Thou shalt allow others to bully you into hosting their stupid comments on your Facebook page!'

I go out of my way NOT to delete or block people - against the better wishes and advice of my team - because I do believe in open dialogue. But I refuse to debate scriptures with novices, neophytes or those who are just plain are dumb when it comes to the things of God.

I won't waste a single brain cell on you.

Word to the wise: when someone tells you to get lost, it's best to just leave. Blocking someone is about the clearest hint you can give that you don't wish to dialogue with them.

It's really weird when they feel the need to email you like this nutjob here, simply because you won't entertain their retardation.

Lastly, there's an entire movement of so-called 'believers' out there who think it's their mission in life to go around policing what other believers are doing in their work or ministries. They call themselves having an 'exposing' ministry; and some refer to themselves as apologists.

But many of them are really just jealous of the success they perceive other believers to have - a success they cannot duplicate in their own lives.

When you start counting another minister's money or wishing ill on their success, you are WAY out of line. That's actually covetousness: the very thing Christ and the writers in the NT warned us about as it relates to money.

The 'love of money' doesn't apply to those who know how to honorably get it. It applies to those who make it their business to count someone else's money as if it's their divine right to do so.

God despises such behavior, because behind it are the spirits of greed, hate and murder. Which is why these individuals go around assassinating the characters and work of other ministers and believers.

They are less like Christ and more like Cain; and true godly repentance and a baptism of genuine love provides the only cure for the covetous heart.

Anyway, I'm done. Just wanted to use this individual and their goofy baseless comment to point out a few things that seem universal in the body of Christ these days.

Mack Major, Facebook 14 Comments [3/11/2017 8:18:48 AM]
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