Quote# 76158

They ask you, 'suppose your son was a homosexual, what would you do?' Now this is what philosophers call a reductio ad absurdum. Suppose your son was a dog-man? Of course he cannot be my son if he is a homosexual, or a dog-man. He could be my anything else, but not a son. He cannot be anybody's son. Sons don't marry other men, nor do they allow other men to marry them.

Barrack Muluka, Afro Articles 67 Comments [9/19/2010 9:00:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Slutmiko

Quote# 126149

Full Steam Ahead



Obama’s anemic economic plan of the pass eight yeas in already looking pathetic compared to Trump aggressive approach to the economy and jobs. Political Cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2017.

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A.F. Branco, Comically Incorrect 31 Comments [4/9/2017 12:16:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 126224

This is a long discussion after the OP. Follow the link to see fundie vs not-so-fundie.

Claim: It is not haram to have homosexual thoughts

This claim is an apologetic one; and it seeks to come to a compromise with homosexuals and their lewdness along with the West and how they promote it and seek to have it accepted and part of the culture.

However, there is no compromise on a subject that the Quran and the Sunnah have already made clear. Thus, the claim that it is not haram to have homosexual thoughts and that one is not considered a sinner until he acts upon it is false. This is the same as saying it is not haram to be gay until you act on it.

It is clear that homosexuality is nothing but a perversion and a disease. There are numerous verses in the Quran about it and how it is referred to as "Al-Fahishah" (Lewdness, an abomination, a vile deed).

“And know that Allah knows what is in your minds, so fear Him”

[al-Baqarah 2:235]

“but He will call you to account for that which your hearts have earned”

[al-Baqarah 2:225].

It is also clear that homosexuality begins as nothing but waswas from the Shaytan. We know that Shaytan and his troops are behind every evil on earth; they entice mankind to commit evil and they beautify shamelessness to them, and that is especially in regards to acts of lewdness in society; so why do we separate Shaytan and his effect on people turning gay? Why do we ignore it and indirectly agree with the kuffar's claim that homosexuality is a natural cause by saying thinking about it is not haram but only acting upon it is?

With the fact established that homosexuality starts as nothing but waswas from the Shaytan (convincing a person that he likes men or women), it is wajib on a person to repel waswas from his mind and evil thoughts as much as he can. If a person watches pornography, lives in a society where they see homosexuality as normal, doesn't lower his gaze from looking at the 'awrah of men and women; then he gets waswas from the devil saying that he likes men; and instead of repelling these evil thoughts, he dwells on them and accepts them; and eventually, he convinces himself that he doesn't like women but he likes men, then the source of the problem is very clear. The means to homosexuality and zina must be cut off, and that includes dwelling upon thoughts regarding them.

As for waswas a person cannot help or just passing thoughts that he does not dwell upon, yes, a person will not be held accountable and there is evidence for that. However, if this happens to someone, he is not considered gay. So a person cannot use this as evidence to say it is not haram to be gay until you act on it. He is only considered gay when he dwells on those thoughts and he accepts that he is not attracted to women, which leads him to act upon it.

Some responses
We are judged by our actions and not our thoughts (as long as we don't dwell on them). If someone is gay but doesn't act on it, then how can you say it's haram? You can't, because their feelings are not a sin and they didn't act on it. . . . .


So it's not an apologetic attitude to have and Muslims really need to do better when faced with these issues, because condemning gay people when they haven't even done anything is stupid and will hurt you and them in the long run.


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I say it is haram because he got waswas from the Shaytan and he didn't repel them. Instead, he dwelt on those thoughts and accepted that he does not like women. For him to accept he does not like women, it is the same as accepting that Allah made him that way. This is the same as saying Allah made him inclined to al-Fahishah. If it is not natural, then it is from the Shaytan. So he must repel the waswas.

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I want to say this is a separate post because it obliterates your claim completely:

You claim that being gay is okay until you act on it. That is the same as saying being an atheist inwardly is okay. Both atheism and homosexuality go against the natural disposition, both of them are from the Shaytan, and both of them are irrational and an abomination.

How many people including Muslims get waswas about the Essence of Allah? Shaytan whispers to someone that Allah does not exist -- prove that He exists. If he does not repel these thoughts and he dwells on them, and he lives in a society that accepts it and he is lax with his prayers and connection to Allah, he will eventually become an atheist (as we see many Muslims do today). The same goes for homosexuality.

The only difference is the society you live in has made you desensitized to homosexuality.

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From what I have read and asked questions of a scholar, it is not a sin to have a thought and to accept it is wrong and to resist and repel that thought and any subsequent thoughts.

Nevertheless, we must be aware that not all homosexuals are lewd and promoting their condition. Some are struggling to live with a very difficult situation as best they can in submission and obedience to Allah (swt) so we need to be mindful of this group in the way we speak about this topic.

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But sister, we cannot call such people homosexuals, these people are simply people who struggle with waswasa and lowering their gaze. Being a homosexual and identifying as such means one has accepted homosexuality. And what's funny is science is trying really hard to prove homosexuality is genetic (giving it a reason for even existing) but so far, nothing great has come up.
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Here's my thought process, homosexuality and heterosexuality is mainly about sex and attraction. If a straight guy is having urges towards every female around, then he should control himself and say "Allah comes first." If a gay guy is having urges towards some guys around, then he should control himself and say "Allah comes first."

If brothers and sisters have issues when it comes to zina, then someone who has attraction to the same gender will feel the same way so it's best to remind them to control their nafs and remember Allah

That is all.

If you feel like this is not the right approach and instead it's better to condemn the person and tell them that everything about them is a sin, then feel free to do it. But my approach is better, because we're all in this together and we all want to go to Jannah.
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sis this quote along with the link that describes how someone may be more genetically inclined to being gay means that I do not mean all kids and people who are/were molested will turn out gay, it simply explains why gay people who think they were born like this turned out this way. "I remember when I was 8 I had a crush on a boy" yet the man who says this was molested at age 5, so of course this will mean he will like boys by age 8 if he were gay, but because he doesn't link the incidence with his orientation, he thinks he is "born" like this. AstaghfiruAllah.

Sister you are failing to realize no one is born gay. Did Allah ta'ala create people born with genetic diseases (God forbid this on all of us and future kids) and condemn them? Did Allah ta'ala create people who have mental and physical disabilities and condemn them? Sub'ana Allah. So why would Allah ta'ala create gay people only to condemn their existence? Okay, let's hypothetically say there is decent proof of a link between genetics and the inclination towards the same sex, but can't they control who they marry? Can't they control such urges? I'll tell you this right now, there is not a single gay man who cannot be intimate with a woman, everything can biologically proceed but it his "preference" that he does not be with a woman.
A person who God forbid, has schizophrenia (genetic mental illness) cannot, for the life of them, control their disease.

And of course, I am nice to everyone. They are just sinners after all. Will they be close friends? Of course not, just like any other person who chooses to openly sin. I do not want to be associated with such people and possibly be influenced. Will I be mean to them and be proud? Of course not. I say Allah yihdeeyon and keep moving.


[b]Much more of this at the link[b]


various, ummah.com 3 Comments [4/11/2017 9:14:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 109386

Ultimately, Transgender ideology, as it is currently being represented, should be viewed as bourgeois reactionism. The bourgeois ideals of 'real man' and 'real woman' must be preserved at any cost (the system of domination and submission depends on it, after all), even to the point of ceding that they are not natural and are entirely social constructs.

What's 'important' now, is that people conditioned to desire conformance with one or the other construct be supported in that desire. We are not permitted to look too deeply at the causes of that conditioning (pervasive drugs and pornography and the resulting decadent culture, the general BDSM economic structure of contemporary capitalism) for obvious reasons.'

"The sheer range of appetites catered to, desires that didn't exist until we invented them" - Littlefinger

Value is socially constructed, but we aren't allowed to ask whether these constructions are good for society or the individuals they affect.

keepitcleanthistime, /r/GenderCritical/ 18 Comments [6/8/2015 2:42:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 126138

How does your favorite singer or movie actor measure up to the Word of God? Here's a partial list of entertainers who are pulling on the same rope as the Devil...

Aaliyah
Adriana Sklenarikova
Ali Landry
Alicia Keys
Alyssa Milano
Angela Lindvall
Angelina Jolie
Anna Kournikova
Anna Paquin
Ashanti
Ashley Judd
Avril Lavigne
Backstreet Boys
Ben Affleck
Beyonce Knowles
Brad Pitt
Britney Spears
Cameron Diaz
Caprice Bourret
Carmen Electra
Carrie-Anne Moss
Charlize Theron
Christina Aguilera
Christina Ricci
Christy Turlington
Cindy Crawford
Claudia Schiffer
Conan O'Brien
Daisy Fuentes
Daniela Pestova
Demi Moore
Donald Trump
Denise Richards
Drew Barrymore
Eliza Dushku
Elizabeth Hurley
Elsa Benitez
Eminem
Estella Warren
Faith Hill
Famke Janssen
Frank Sinatra
Gabrielle Reece
Gabrielle Union
Gena Lee Nolin
Gene Simmons
Gillian Anderson
Gisele Bundchen
Gwen Stefani
Gwyneth Paltrow
Halle Berry
Heidi Klum
Howard Stern
Jaime Pressly
James King
Jay Leno
Jennifer Aniston
Jennifer Garner
Jennifer Lopez
Jennifer Love Hewitt
Jenny McCarthy
Jeri Ryan
Jessica Alba
Jessica Simpson
Johnny Depp
Julia Roberts
Julia Stiles
Kate Hudson
Katherine Heigl
Keanu Reeves
Kelly Hu
Keri Russell
Kid Rock
Kim Bassinger
Kirsten Dunst
Kylie Minogue
Laetitia Casta
LeAnn Rimes
Leelee Sobieski
Liv Tyler
Lucy Lawless
Lucy Liu
Madonna
Mandy Moore
Mariah Carey
Matt Damon
Mena Suvari
Michael Jackson
Michelle Branch
Michelle Trachtenberg
Minnie Driver
Monica Bellucci
Nadja Auermann
Nancy Sinatra
Naomi Campbell
Nicole Kidman
Orlando Bloom
Ozzy Osbourne
Pamela Anderson
Paris Hilton
Reba McEntire
Sharon Stone
Toni Braxton
Victoria Silvstedt
Viggo Mortensen
Virginie Ledoyen
Vivica A Fox
Yamila Diaz
Patricia Arquette
Pink
Rachael Leigh Cook
Rebecca Gayheart
Rebecca Romijn-Stamos
Reese Witherspoon
Rena Mero (Sable)
Renee Zellweger
Ricky Martin
Salma Hayek
Sandra Bullock
Shakira
Shania Twain
Sophie Marceau
Sung Hi Lee
Thandie Newton
Tiffani-AmberThiessen
Tiny Turner
Tom Cruise

Do their tight clothing and sensual gyrations express the love of God or the works of the devil? Do the lyrics in their songs glorify God or sex and sensuality? Does the way they dress make you sing praises to God or think about sex? They are all of the devil and you know it. Some singers come right out and praise Satan. This world is fast going over a moral waterfall. The New World Order is here. The microchips are already here and WILL be implanted into every human being at some point in the future. Those who resist will be punished. Christians and patriots will be arrested, persecuted and even executed.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 49 Comments [4/8/2017 2:00:53 PM]
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Quote# 1231

[On the Shroud of Turin]

From what I watched on the tv show and what the Bible say, Jesus was raped in it for 3 days and then He rose from the dead.

BurningSon, POD Warrior Forum 71 Comments [11/1/2002 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 126158

Jesus Wins!

This just in, all across the country, today, people have elected Jesus to be their Lord. Jesus wins! What a tremendous victory in the Kingdom of God.

As far as I know, Jesus was not elected Mayor, Governor, Senator, or anything else on November 2nd. I’m not actually sure anyone voted for him at all. But that doesn’t make him a loser and it doesn’t make this site meaningless (a little silly, maybe). The point was never for Jesus to actually be elected. I’m not sure he wants to be the ruler of any man-made position in our governments.

But can you imagine it? Imagine a little town with two corrupt politicians running for Mayor. Out of their wits and out of their options, the people write in Jesus of Nazareth and he wins. What would they do? Would they go on about their way, acting as though he were as tangible as our wives or husbands or parents or friends? Can you imagine the swearing-in ceremony? I picture a silly situation where a Judge, the Honerable, holding a Bible, asks Jesus to put his right hand on it and swear to tell the truth and uphold justice. How can we ask the definition of truth and justice to swear by them? Can we swear by ourselves?

But I digress and start to daydream.

The position Jesus is to have in our lives as Christians is greater than the position held by our Judges, Mayors, Governors, Senators, and even Presidents. His Kingship is more intimate than all these and more supreme. If we cannot imagine him as our President, how can we imagine him as our Lord?

When I next go to vote, I will cast two votes. One ethereal from my heart and the other tangible with my hand. Both will be the write-in candidate Jesus of Nazareth.

Grant, Write in Jesus 23 Comments [4/9/2017 12:19:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 126114

Matt most kindly sent me something this morning to wake up. I’ll have to thank him later. If you have theological nerves of steel, you can go read all about how Ms. Jory Micah, with her ‘husband by her side’ is going to be packing up and moving to start a church. Here’s a taste of what you can expect if you decide to join up with them.

"God gave me the name, “The Table.” It will be a ministry that will start in our small apartment somewhere in the heart of the city, and we will invite whoever God sends our way. Luke and I feel that Jesus calls Christians to reach out especially to the marginalized, broken, left out, poor, and oppressed of society. So practically speaking, Luke and I look forward to inviting minorities, homeless people, college students away from their homes, lgbtq people who have been abandoned by their families, immigrants, single moms, widows, refugees, and really anyone who is hungry for food, conversation, and love, to our table once a week. We will invite Jesus each week to be our host. We think He will show up. We think this is exactly the sort of “church” Jesus hangs out in. Anyone and everyone is invited to Jesus’ table. The worst of the worst sinners are invited to sit among those who seem to understand how to walk out a holy life better than others. No one has to repent to sit at Jesus’ table. Everyone can come, sit, eat, drink, belong, and be loved, just as they are."

How will this be, given that it won’t have any marks of the Church? How will this incredible work be accomplished?

"You see, it is at Jesus’ table that each of us is transformed. As we sit with Him, and one another, love changes us from the inside out, and something happens. We find freedom. We find renewal. We find redemption. We find resurrection. We find God."

Wow. That’s so great. Sign me up. A repentance free church where we basically all just come together for dinner and a chat about our thoughts and feelings about God. Where, in the course of all the chatting and all the feelings, God affirms our deepest longings and hopes and dreams and destiny, and then a beautiful shiny purplish unicorn comes trotting through the door and kisses each lost soul on the forehead and says, ‘Ms. Jory Micah, you shall go to the ball.’

See, if you made it through her whole post, you would have discovered that this “church” (with all the scare quotes I can muster from every corner) is not about the old passé stuff that all those other boring churches are about–Jesus, Christianity, the gospel. It’s about Ms. Micah feeling left out of the church for her whole life. It’s about her sense of call to be a minister, about her having no official affirmation of that call. It’s about her disappointment and frustration. She describes herself as a ‘sad puppy’ looking for a church that will really feel like home. Everywhere she goes she just doesn’t really fit.

I initially felt really sad as I read about how homeless and unrooted she is. But then I began to attend to the reasons she and her husband just don’t "fit in." Reasons like, "In other words, Luke and I are dedicated to listening to the stories of the powerless, in a world that silences and oppresses those who are poor, voiceless, marginalized, excluded, and loveless."

And, "Our hearts burn for social justice in both the Church and in society."

You know, because all the dumb rubes sitting in regular pews on Sunday don’t care about the powerless, the marginalized, the poor. The church has literally never, in two thousand years, thought of those people. The church, see, was all confused, and thought it was just about the Beautiful and the Awesome and the Rich. Color me dubious. I’ve been to a lot of churches and I have yet to meet these jerks who care nothing for Other People.

Let’s read a little further. In all the care and anxiety for the downtrodden, we find this, "We have always searched for ways to combine our passions, but we have struggled to find a church home in which we feel our unique combination of gifts are seen and appreciated."

And this delightful gem, "Perhaps that is why we have such a heart for those who feel left out: because we know what it is like to have much to offer the Church and world, but to go unnoticed by those with influence and power."

And there we have it. Ms. Micah is the one who feels herself to be persecuted. She is the "marginalized." This is really all about her.

So, just to refresh ourselves so we know where we are. Jory Micah has, from the age of 13, known herself to be called to be a minister in the church. Jesus told her this and there is no moving her off this important divine revelation. She’s received some kind of theological education. She’s found herself a husband who will properly submit to her. And yet Still there is no church body that will affirm her incredible awesome call. So finally, having had enough, she’s going to start one herself, one that won’t even really be called a church…except that it Very Much Will, and it will be better than all those other stupid churches out there that haven’t recognized her great heart and great gifts.

So, I do have some real sympathy for Ms. Micah.
Skirting away from my great huge desire to say, "bless her heart," I want to remind Jory that, most tragically, the church is not about her. It’s not about any of us. None of us have the right to patter in an demand recognition and jobs because of how fantastic we are. Not a single person in church gets to be the center of it all and have accolades and triumphs. That’s not what it’s for.

The church, shockingly, is about Jesus. And the thing he cares most about is people, ordinary people, coming to hear about his saving work on the cross. The church is about Jesus. He doesn’t just come ‘hang out’ there. He doesn’t just sort of sit back and bless whatever we feel like doing. The church is his bride. It is the body of people he gathers and rescues from death to keep safe with him forever. It belongs to him, and so it has to listen to him and do whatever he says. Even the things he says In The Bible.

I must say, I’m sort of encouraged that somehow Ms. Micah has run up against a brick wall in her calling to be a "pastor." I have to wonder why she hasn’t yet checked out the Episcopal church, cough, although I wouldn’t wish having to cope with her on mine own enemy. She sounds deeply troubled and power hungry–the two things from which all sane church leadership runs screaming away.

And one final thing (although, don’t worry, there is a very high chance I will be saying more about this tomorrow) in the spirit of casting my bread upon the waters. Ms. Micah doesn’t have time for repentance and the traditional marks of the church in her headlong rush to fashion the church into the likeness of herself, but she might be surprised to find that Jesus himself, that wondrous man, could be enough for her when all other men have failed. He’s not going to congratulate her for being wonderful, but he can remove the incredibly burdensome trial of her ego, he can forgive her sin and show her the way of life. It is very hard to take the narrow, the unacclaimed way, the unknown way, the bitter way of the loss of the self that leads to eternal life. I hope you’ll join me in praying for her, and her husband, and the people they happen to meet, that God will break in and surprise them with the goodness of his Son.


Anne Kennedy, Patheos 10 Comments [4/8/2017 5:02:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 125786

Re: Will man ever go to Mars.
Quote Originally Posted by -qed- View Post

Would it be haram to go to Mars though?




I've thought about this before, and IMO yes because how can you pray from Mars?

Abu Jarir, ummah.com 12 Comments [4/7/2017 7:09:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Mister Spak

Quote# 29665

10 of 34 people found the following review helpful:
This book makes the point of a well deserved spanking, July 29, 1999
Reviewer: A reader
When I read this book last march my son was slipping horribly in school. My son is 17 years old and graduated with flying colors from his Junior year (a 98 on one of his Regents exams!). When he was little and acted up (through grade 6) down the pants came and over the knee he went. But I faulsly belived that after that he was beyond the "spanking age." When I read this book I learned that my son needed help and I had to give it to him. He had failed or came close too, most of his finals and was in bad shape (never listened, always late, smoking, drinking) and I couldn't bare to see him bomb like that. So, one night he came home 4 hours late, I learned that he had failed 2 tests and had been smoking again. I grounded him. He threw a fit and after a bit of a screeming match I pulled over a kitchen table chair, grabbed my sons wrist, yanked down his pants and spanked him. I spanked him for a half an hour. His bottom was as red as an apple. I kept him there over my knee and explained the rules. He agreed. Of course a few other spankings followed and may still follow, but he's doing much better with the spankings. And I have this book to thank.

A reader, Amazon.com 59 Comments [10/4/2007 7:48:29 PM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 126186

The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) is a liberal group of affiliated Baptist "churches." The SBC has weakened their stance on biblical inerrancy, and they have said that the Bible contains the Word of God, rather than actually being the Word of God. They do not believe in a literal Hell for unbelievers, and they have adopted such heresies as "once saved, always saved." This means that you can pray a "sinners prayer" as a "get out of Hell free" card.
The SBC believes that alcoholic beverages can be consumed in moderation, that papist Bible translations like the NIV and NKJV can be used, and that playing cards and other forms of gambling should be allowed based upon the individual consciences of the members.
Due to diluting truth with moral relativism and feel-good theology, and the lack of hard preaching in sermons, the SBC has taken over a large part of the Baptist movement in the US, and not just in the South: the SBC is even gaining a stronghold in Michigan!
First Corinthians 3:1-3
1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
Good Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches provide the meat for grown men and women in Christ, while you can barely get any milk as a babe in Christ in the SBC.

William Grimes, Conservatism Wiki 37 Comments [4/9/2017 7:43:06 PM]
Fundie Index: 35

Quote# 126117

[(comment on a SciShow video about tornadoes in America)]

Screw your sciencey bullspit. It's the gods I say. They are angry because we pretty much committed genocide on an entire people under the guise of helping them. Viola: Tornado.?


N Yodeler, Youtube 12 Comments [4/8/2017 5:03:35 AM]
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Quote# 113503

This evangelist asked a gay bakery to make a traditional marriage cake. Now he may face charges.

April 9, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Joshua Feuerstein was just trying to make a point. Now, he may face legal action, as a bakery that refused to provide him with a cake opposing same-sex “marriage” threatens to sue him for taking their conversation public. The bakery owner is also threatening to press charges related to the recording of the phone call.

In the wake of heated national debate over whether business owners should have the right to refuse to participate in same-sex “weddings” that violate their religious beliefs, Feuerstein, an internet evangelist, decided to see if pro-gay business owners would give him the same deference as a Christian that homosexual activists are demanding Christian business owners give to same-sex couples, even if they disagreed with his worldview.

He made a tape of himself calling Florida-based bakery “Cut the Cake” and asking them to make a cake decorated with the words, “We do not support gay marriage.” As Feuerstein expected, the bakery – which calls itself LGBT-friendly and advertises same-sex “wedding” services in gay publications – refused and hung up the phone.

"We wanted to see if a pro-LGBT bakery would bake a cake for something that it was opposed to what they believed in,” Feuerstein told Florida’s WESH 2 News, “and you know what, I actually believe that Cut the Cake has every right as an American to refuse to print that on a cake.”

Feuerstein posted video of the phone call to YouTube with commentary explaining his position. “Cut the Cake[‘s owner]…refuses to make an anti-gay ‘marriage’ cake, so it obviously violates her principles, and so she doesn’t feel like she should be forced to make the cake,” Feuerstein said in the video. “And yet…there’s all of this hoopla going around because Christian bakeries think that they shouldn’t be forced.”

“Look, this is not about discrimination,” Feuerstein said. “This is about them having the freedom.”

Kirsten Andersen, LifeSite 31 Comments [10/10/2015 5:22:42 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 19921

Our God is a God of Love, but also a God of Hate. Too common is the myth that God "hates the sin but loves the sinner." This is a lie! In many instances, as evident in the scriptures, God hates the individual who commits the wicked deed. Yes, it is true that our God is a God of Love, but He is also a God of Hate.

B®ent, Christian Forums 50 Comments [1/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: -4
Submitted By: UberLutheran

Quote# 114888

Do you think it's right for Rapists to adopt children ? If not, why ? Are you so worried your sexuality to be bothered by it that much?

Or, why is it illegal for people to be naked in public or why do toilets have doors ??

The western governments are trying to make the immoral moral and the moral immoral, and the simple reason why is that most Western politicians are Satanists.

They are trying to make these things the "norm" and one of the ways to do this is to destroy families (which they have already pretty much succeeded in) and allowing homosexuals to adopt children.

Thenthe next generation are going to be even more immoral than this generation, and then it will be "ok" to pass even more immoral laws, and so on. They have been doing this for the past few decades thats why people are becoming more and more preverse and immoral.


Sawtul Khilafah , Islamicity 17 Comments [1/14/2016 3:49:49 PM]
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Quote# 41028

Yes, and this is why I believe the democrats will run the country. If we are at the end of the end, everything has to get worse then it is. As in the days of Noah... Sodom and Gemorrah... the dems will lead this country right into those days all the way.

What an ugly dark world we will be living in then. The love of many wax cold. A lukewarm church, even more apostacy.

True Christians will be the only light (few and far between). And then when we are removed from the earth, the darkness will consume this earth.
Oh Lord Jesus, please save our loved ones soon!!!

Glory, RaptureReady 35 Comments [6/16/2008 3:20:48 PM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 107208

Kirk’s words, often the same words that you and I might think, are reported as hate speech. He is openly mocked, ridiculed and even hated for believing what committed Christians should believe. His words are frequently taken out of context so that often what is reported is not accurate. Kirk is not the only one to endure this treatment. There are other Christians, other public figures that are treated this way. But I am blessed to know Kirk, so for me it is personal. And I want to take this opportunity to encourage you to do two things.

First, pray for Kirk and those like him who remain faithful even in the middle of the media blitz and misinformation. Be thankful for their sacrifice and willingness to speak the truth when it is not pleasant to do so.

Second, follow his example, and speak clearly to those you come in contact with about who God is and what the Bible teaches. In many ways folks like Kirk are doing the job that our churches should be doing, the job you and I should be doing. We don’t need to be on TV to make an impact for Christ. Pray that God would give us the courage to make the most of the opportunities given to us to speak God’s truth in love.

I encourage you to be thankful for those like Kirk who are in the public eye. Pray for them. Join me in thanking Kirk for standing for the things we hold dear. Let him know he is not alone.

Jay Younts, Shepard Press 20 Comments [3/20/2015 3:05:11 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 9346

Evolutionsts Paul Mirecki [<a href="http://www.fstdt.com/blog/article.php?id_article=8" target="_blank">this guy</a>] now knows of the wrath of God. His put downs of creationists were exposed in an email he wrote. Then he wanted to take Creationism out of the science curriculum at Kansas and move it to a mythology class. But the Creator had other plans! God led two of his servants sent to give Mirecki the butt whipping he deserved! After getting out of the hospital with head injuries, Mirecki then was forced to resign his position at the University of Kansas! I pray that other evolutionists will repent or receive the same or worse fate!!! God is more powerful than the words of any darwinist. If you don't repent immediately and admit that God created the world exactly like He said He did in the Bible, don't be surprised if someday you wind up in a hospital - or in HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bible Man, TalkOrigins Feedback 28 Comments [2/3/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 126181

@EyeCrushUSA:
@MightBeANovelty:
It doesn't matter if Assad gassed 72 or 1 Million people. It's not OUR FUCKING PROBLEM and we have no moral obligation.

Why the fuck is some Syrian worth 2M dollars. The strike costed $150M for just 72 Syrians.


Says a lot about you that you value human life like that.


Yea, I don't give a shit. Should we bankrupt our nation because muh human lives. News flash, if we spent the same amount per American, the budget would be $600T. Save their asses and then they come as "Refugees" and rape our women. They wouldn't even spend $10 on you and we're ok with spending Millions. Pathological Altruism is a disease.

Why should some Syrian be worth $2M tax money?

MightBeANovelty, Reddit - r/The_Donald 18 Comments [4/9/2017 7:41:52 PM]
Fundie Index: 9
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 6270

Since you didn't grow up in this nation (or did you?) maybe you don't know the value we place on God here. He has been taken out of our public expression (Christian preachers arrested for praying to God in public)...

Key of David, Christian Forums 8 Comments [2/1/2004 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 126120



Sadly, everyone was NOT created equal.

Make It All Great Again, Facebook 19 Comments [4/8/2017 5:03:56 AM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 125914

SJWs are cancer to everything they touch. SJW comics are just another horrible form of religious comics, but instead of a smiling white Jesus teaching kids not to do drugs, it's a Muslim female trying to convince everyone that hijabs are kewl and that cutting off your penis to calm the voices in your head is perfectly rational.

beegtymerawkstah, BleedingCool 6 Comments [4/7/2017 7:15:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 1

Quote# 1694

I have watched David Blaine who does similar tricks. But for the life of me, I can't figure out what's going on. I really have considered demonic influence.

RaptureNews, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [7/25/2005 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 11622

The reality of human history is that human beings are rebellious. Historically what force has been able to hold the masses in check ? Only three are apparent:

1. Brute force as in the case if Communism, Fascism, Marxism, and to a lesser degree, socialism.
2. Rigid religious systems with stiff social penalties for disobedience such as is found in Buddhism, Hinduism, or Islam.
3. The freedom and liberty which comes with acknowledging the Christian absolutes as reality.

Bruce Malone, DrDino.com 42 Comments [5/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: papabear

Quote# 5696

As adult Christians, LOTR, HP etc will have little affect on us, but to little kids its TERRIBLE. Satan has desensitized our culture. He has made it so we allow our children to read HP books. Satan loves to get us doubting Gods infallible Word. Satan loves to get us adults thinking these movies are ok, so we let our children watch it... Can you imagine what Jesus would have said to one of the apostles if they had said, 'Hey Jesus, you should go watch this magician at the Jerusalem 8 Cinema, and bring along some children, this guy is a good magician. He wears a white robe'.

r8ermang, Rapture Ready 15 Comments [12/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4